On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:33:47 +0100, Laurence Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Rich Mellor wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:50:18 +0100, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
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>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sinclair_QL
>>>
>>> Does http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/ offer any better features?
>>>
>>> Is there any sense it producing two?
>>>
>>> Unless Rich's one offers unique facilities, it seems to me to make more
>>> sense to us and update the wikipedia one.
>>>
>>
>> My thoughts were that it is easier to maintain one amongst the QL
>> community - the main wiki one is just too broad and if you are not
>> careful, you end up seeing Windows topics with the same names as QL  
>> ones -
>> try looking up QDOS.
>>
>> I have also noticed that some of my additions to the main wiki get  
>> deleted
>> - no idea why, obviously someone who disagrees
>>
>> However, what does everyone else think?
>>
>
> Sorry Rich, but I'm with Tony on this.
>
> I missed noting where your Wiki was at the start of this, and hadn't got
> around to asking. I'm sure I could have worked it out. I was quite
> bemused as to what justification there might be for it.

The justification is that it is nigh impossible for those who have not  
grown up with the QL to find out about the software houses which used to  
support it, and what software is available (either new or second hand).   
It all started with a discussion on World of Spectrum as to why someone  
might want to but a QL and although I could provide some general  
knowledge, when they asked what software and hardware had been produced  
and were there screenshots and photos etc, I was stuck.

Yes there is screenshots of my own software which I still sell, but very  
little information on the other software except where it is public domain  
(in which case there is normally just a filename and basic details on what  
it does).  For example, it is not easy to find details of what Laurence  
Reeves has produced for the QL over the years!!

> I'd ask questions like where is it hosted, is it archived, backed up,  
> etc.

At the moment, it is hosted on my own server, which does archive the  
changes as part of the SQL database routines.  Perhaps we need better wiki  
software?


> I could understand having some more secure Wiki facilities for Quanta,
> say, but that's about it.
>
> If you've had problems on Wikipedia with people deleting your stuff,
> have you followed it up? Your changes would still be present in archival
>   form, I believe. That's how they recover when silly people attack.

The trouble is that people see things like QDOS in the wiki as solely PC  
related and I think that they then delete the Sinclair reference - I have  
added a paragraph on QDOS several times, but it keeps getting deleted, so  
I gave up.  In my opinion, it makes more sense to have one QL resource  
really - similar to the Spectrum database on software, books and hardware  
at World of Spectrum.

However, if people have other views, then please let's air them and come  
to a decision on the best way forward.


> (Signed: A Wikipediophiliac/Wikipedaholic)
> (Hey, I like the first one... exactly two letters per syllable.)



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Rich Mellor
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