Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 11/Jan/11 13:29 | Jan11:
Rich Mellor wrote, on 11/Jan/11 12:13 | Jan11:
<snip>
after all, Miracle's hard disk did
still allow use of a ROM cartridge (from memory) although I may be wrong
there.
It did. I remember he had designed it around the std eprom pack, and I
had to file the case to fit a full width romdisq card.


Tony
Speaking of the romdisq, I wonder how practical it might be to adapt the romdisq drivers for Peter's card reader? I appreciate that (a) TT would probably charge for this, and (b) it might conflict with Peter's "Open
Source" principles.


"Card reader" - I didn't read in detail, but will it be read only? I assumed read/write.
Sorry, my mistake, I didn't mean to imply read-only. I should have used Peter's terminology.

Romdisq auto-load drivers will not fit in an unexpanded QL. I believe he needed quite a large data buffer in ram, certainly, I would have thought, at least one 64kB block. I have no documentation for TTs driver code.

It did strike me that Peter's hope to use it in a std QL might not be straightforward. Even if the drivers fit, will there be enough memory left to do anything useful?
128K QL... original QL disk interfaces only just about managed to work in 128K with software like Quill, etc with the disk drivers in ROM and what buffer area was needed in RAM etc. We might have to expect it to only work on expanded memory systems (which the SGC PAR port version would be anyway).

==> To Derek and Dilwyn: I think we can speak franky, now that a native filesystem seems in reach. If you have comments, please go ahead.
OK, with Peter's permission I can now say that I used a very early prototype PAR port version from Peter for a while now. I wrote a pointer driven front end for the MTools software (called MTFE for MTools Front End) which allowed the use of the MTools commands, but in a more comfortable pointer driven program. The files were stored in the FAT formatted flash memory card (I hope I'm right in saying it was FAT formatted, I can't remember!), to the best of my knowledge it was never a QL native format at that stage, although with luck Peter's new drivers will be able to implement a native QL file format. The prototype worked well (and continues to do so after the time I have had it).

The interface was a small black box with nicely rounded corners,about 5cm wide, 4cm deep and 1cm thick, but it was an early prototype and Peter's ideas may have changed since then. About 40cm of cable connected it to a 25-pin PC style PAR port connector, long enough to put the interface where you want it (including under a QL out of sight if the QL is raised by its plastic feet). I used it with my Aurora-based Minis-QL, which has the SGC PAR port connected to the outside world via a 25 pin D connector. I use a 256MB SD card but have no reason to think you couldn't use a bigger capacity card up to what the file format supports.

I certainly hope this QL add-on makes it to market as it provides a good solution for future QL mass storage.

Dilwyn Jones


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