Are geoff. George and John the three that will receive my promised QL-SDs? If I 
get your Adresses I can already send them to you (or whoever will receive them) 
.
They are supposed to be used by you. They are not supposed to be prices for 
lottery (or however this should be called)
Kind regards 

Liebe Grüße 
Paul

Geoff Wicks <[email protected]> schrieb: 

>On 14/05/2014 20:48, John Gilpin wrote:
>> Geoff,
>>
>> I have been following your ramblings about the QL-is-30 "Workshop" 
>> with more than a little interest (but not much!!)
>>
>> Your comments regarding the help and interest for this event coming 
>> only from overseas, leads me to see that you have experienced the same 
>> apathetic response that the current QUANTA committee members have, for 
>> many years, experienced from the South-UK QLers (and especially QUANTA 
>> UK Members). Although the percentage attendance of the UK QUANTA 
>> members at QUANTA events during the last decade has been unacceptably 
>> low, it is far greater than the attendance of the OS QUANTA Members 
>> (which one can count on one had with half the digits removed!). It 
>> will be interesting to see what the attendance is like in Edinburgh 
>> from both UK and OS.
>
>So far of the names I have 9 are overseas and 8 UK. (I believe there are 
>two more  overseas but I do not have their names.) All told 6 countries 
>should be represented.
>>
>> Those of you who have spent some time as a "QL Trader" have the 
>> benefit of a wider address book of QLers than QUANTA has (their 
>> address book is limited to UK and OS members past and present), which 
>> gives you the edge when it comes to filling the void left by the 
>> apathetic UK QLers.
>>
>> All the OS QUANTA members, have been invited (like the UK ones) to 
>> every event that QUANTA has put on, be it a Workshop (one or two days 
>> in length), Show or any other name that you would like to call it 
>> (QUANTA has consistently called it a workshop on the grounds that it 
>> is the attendees who make it into whatever type of event they want, 
>> when (and if) they get there.)
>>
>In practice I don't think Quanta shows have been workshops for about 10 
>years, with the exception  of QLis21 and possibly 2011 when we had 
>Quanta issues (constitution and subscription).
>> You have also identified that when QUANTA were able to attract UK 
>> people with any QL savvy to a QUANTA event, then we used them to give 
>> a talk or demonstration (and under the direction of a previous QUANTA 
>> Chairman, contributed financially to their out-of-pocket expenses - a 
>> move which has been greatly criticised as "QUANTA Workshops/Annual 
>> General Meetings cost too much to put on"). But then, QUANTA has got 
>> both money that it is not afraid to spend (since no one else seems 
>> interested in using it) and some equipment which you are welcome to 
>> use if you need it (Projector & Screen for presentations).
>>
>Very good policy and much appreciated. I was going to make use of it 
>when I did the activities for Solihull in 2007, but I think my speakers 
>all said it was not necessary.
>
>As far as I know we don't need to use any of Quanta's equipment, 
>although I was prepared to request the projector. The church are being 
>generous in letting us use their facilities.
>
>One thing I would appreciate from Quanta is if someone would be prepared 
>to say a few words about electronic participation in meetings. I am not 
>thinking in terms of the technical details, but more how it has turned 
>out in practice.
>> It is also fair to say that the current QUANTA Committee have been in 
>> service for many years unlike some other EX-QUANTA committee members 
>> who, when times got tough, backed away from their volunteered 
>> responsibilities, or resigned from QUANTA altogether!
>>
>> And finally, you seem to have accepted that one needs local people on 
>> the ground to investigate the availability of suitable venues for an 
>> event such as QL-is-30 and expecting people to travel hundreds of 
>> miles to do this is a complete waste of time, effort and money.
>>
>> So we wish George Gwilt, John Sadler and all the QUANTA SQLUG Subgroup 
>> all the best in their efforts to host the QL-is-30 event in 2014. See 
>> you all there. :-)
>Indeed George and John have not yet been given all the credit they have 
>deserved,
>
>Best wishes,
>
>
>Geoff
>
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