On 14 Jun 2002, at 11:10, Mike MacNamara wrote:
> I hope I am not taking sides, it is sad there seems to be sides. Yessssssssss! > > I, personally, would dispute that statement. For me, QPC is > just as > > important. > I have already said to Marcel and Jochen that in the wee sma > hours I should have used 'equally' instead of 'most'. Yes of course you did - my message went out before I had read your reply. Sorry. > I think > without Marcels contribution the user base would be drastically > smaller than it is now. I was trying in my simple way to keep the > discussion on the level of the costs incurred by hardware developers, > by virtue of component and development costs, being greater than those > incurred by others. QPC is very important, and I as a user can see the > day when QPC is going to be about all we have. (lobby) > Somebody else's word, not mine... Ok, OK... > Fine, no problem there, it is not your interpretation or decision that > are the point. I don't know enough about the mechanics to venture an > opinion, but must be guided by reasonable people. What appears to be > the problem is the perception by some that all is MAYBE not as open as > would be desired. That needs to be addressed, I know you are trying to > do this, you really need to be a UN diplomat to sort it out. Well, what more can I do be be even more open? > Fine, but again fuels the perception. I'm sorry, but there I disagree with you totally. We DO have a discussion here, and a good forum to thrash things out. After the Eindhoven meeting and when this discussion was in full debate, there was a QL meeting somewhere in the UK, sorry forgot where. MAny of the protagonists were there (not me) - and dialogue just wasn't possible. If we had a meeting, I'm not sure things wouldn't come to blows! (I'm serious here!) > Again the perception is about in > some quarters, whether justified or not. To paraphrase someone" it is > not enough to do right, one has got to be seen to do right" . I agree with you on both counts. However, when you are in a situation where you will not be seen as doing anything right unless you do exactly what one party wants - there is no issue. > > > No > I did not say that, I said listen, I think most QLers, including > myself, trust you completely in this matter, and will go along with > whatever you decide. What a change! :-) > What I have said is ,please don't let past 'bad > blood' between parties cause a split in the QL community, a bit of > diplomacy to smooth the perceptions of some may be all that can be > done. Again, I agree -especially as I think I can truely state that I wans't part of this "bad blood". But your comment then means that I have not been diplomatic enough until now, doesn't it? The problem is that diplomacy doesn't mean never saying "no". At some stage, a decision must be made, and since there are two contradictory lines are in play, the decision has to be in "favour" of one of them. I do believe that I have listened, I have tried to answer all arguments, I have agreed to some suggestions, not to others because this is not possible. > You asked for users opinions, I think I shall get on with > installing the ADSL equipment that has just arrived. At least I > shall be able to retreat more quickly. > > Good luck, sincerely, Thanks. Wolfgang
