On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 at 21:54:36, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >>On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: >> >>> I suspect you'll find that scholls nowadays are all 'mainstream' in that >>> they have a pile of PCs running Windows. They are, after all, training the >>> 'yoof of today' to be able to work in the offices of today, or the next >> >>Maybe I wasn't clear... :o) >> >>Old PC XTs used to be able to share some of the functionality of the beeb, >>but now we have these superfast, PCI-only (no ISA) PCs, they just CAN'T do >>a lot of the things they used to, without very very expensive cards. We're >>not talking about computer departments, we're talking about >>technology/engineering departments, where robotics, data >>acquisition/control practical work is done... >> >>> I'd love to see the QL 'bounce back' but I'm afraid I'm very sceptical when >>> ideas are put forward to get it going as a 'mainstream' computer. I'm sad to >>> say that the QL - and its derivatives - are more than likely destined to >>> remain a hobby. >> >>I agree with you on this! The QL will not be making any kind of >>resurgence. However, elements of the QL can go forward in other things, >>and in such a way that the community benefits. If we had a really compact >>embedded board with serial/IR keyboard/programming in BASIC (a bit like a >>super BASIC STAMP module, but more powerful ;) it could sell by the >>bucketload. >> >>It's all a case of what can we convince people to buy, and still benefit >>the community from. > >Yes, there is a market in this kind of specialism ... provided it can be >programmed from any 'mainstream' computer host. > >The Lego Mindstorms 'brick' is a popular one right now. Yes - the 'RCX' It is desperately unsophisticated of course, only 3 I/O lines, very inaccurate clock, and not dirt cheap. There is C like (NQC - 'Not Quite C') language support for them - which Ben (my 12 yr old son) uses. IBOX - the thought in the mind of me and Stuart, went a fair way down this route. I even started building a prototype. It was planned have Minerva/68xxx/pic. It was primarily for I/O but could easily have had keyboard and some sort of display. and it would have fitted inside a 36 way D housing. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@<surname>.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG