??? 5/11/2002 12:23:18 ??, ?/? Dave P 
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<snip on Dave's email>


After careful consideration and drawing on my own experience 
on "skirmishes" on Ql-Users (everybody probably remembers 
the huge misunderstanding between me and Richard Z. in 
which I grossly misunderstood him and a very bad reaction -
mostly erroneous and out of context on my part- ensued), I 
have to say the following to conclude the matter:

1. It is indeed not very constructive to deal with matter of 
this nature publicly but only as a very last resort (As I don't 
=obviously= know all the facts behind Wolfgang's post I will 
not comment further)
2. What's "legal" and what's "fair use" are terms that are and 
will be subject to debate on this list as well as elsewhere on 
different platforms. My original comments were on the "letter 
of the law". Please note that I do not and will not agree to the 
SMSQ/E license as it is now (However it's my personal decision 
to enforce it, I see it as something like the drinking age limit in 
the US... it's a failed concept but it's the law...).
3. I and I believe others up until now were under the 
impression that according to our original "terms of purchase" 
we were entitled to free upgrades. That was the idea behind 
QPC (where the price for an update covered mainly Marcel's 
work... the fact that part of this work was done on SMSQ/E to 
bring it to up to par with QPC it's totally irrelevant to the OS 
itself and very relevant to what Marcel charges).
4. For D&D (as both Dave and Bill said) we cannot really say 
what really goes on until either D. or D. (sic!) say their side of 
their story (as it's only fair :-). However did anybody ever 
consider that this is not a CD we're talking about here but an 
EPROM which needs to be burned and then tested? Do they 
have to provide that for free too according to the SMSQ/E 
license? My personal opinion is that they shouldn't... it's not 
the same thing as copying a CD (which as we said -Dave as 
well as me and others when the original license was 
discussed-) should be allowed to be copied by PD libraries and 
even (why not) a very small fee charged for all their trouble, 
shipping etc... That hardly has ANYTHING to do with the 
distribution of SMSQ/E and I think that everyone would agree 
that the pursuit of a hobby, doesn't mean you need to blow 
your money away... (Some people ie. me don't have that much 
and the fact that we do love the platform doesn't mean we 
need to lose money on it... For example if I ran a PD library 
service (which I do in some form) and I provide SMSQ/E I 
should be able to charge something for the lost time and 
effort. Additionally, having to send my SMSQ/E version back to 
the registrar so my buddy that wants to check it out (even if 
no intention to incorporate the changes back to the original 
version exists) (since no CVS in the usual form exists) is 
hindering development than encouraging it.
5. Finally, the fact that TT did choose (IIRC again, don't shoot 
if I am wrong) not to make any money out of SMSQ/E any 
more but in that meeting you all had, decided to have him re-
imbursed despite his original intentions to me at least means 
that he wasn't interested in getting anything more out of it. 
Don't get me wrong, I think it's brilliantly designed and as long 
as it was actively developed by him I had no problem paying 
for it, however now I don't really see why I should? Especially 
since the rest of the people that do develop it do not...


That's all,

in VERY good faith,


Phoebus




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