----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
> > > > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > the presumption is that D&D have sold Q60s with SMSQ/E - after > > all, this is the way the machine has always been sold. > > If only they had simply told me - "we have not sold one single > > machine with SMSQ/E". > > How do you know that they weren't sitting on a stock of 25 pre-blown > EPROMS and have been nibbling away at these with sales, and would have > made appropriate arrangements when this got down to 2 or 3 EPROMS? This is > pure conjecture. Again, only D&D can clarify this. > I thought it was obvious, we blew a pile of ERROMs last year and put them in stock as you would do with floppy discs maybe. When we want a pair we pick them up and fit them. We do everything in batches and never use the one at a time approach. This applies to motherboards as well, I build a generic m/b which is stored and can be turned into a Q40i, Q60/60, Q60/66, Q60/80 or the other one which is secret. > > Thanks fo the "technically" > > As I said previously, I hold your technical skills in highest regard. > > > Excuse me, but what cooperation? D&D and I don't HAVE TO > > cooperate (even though, still, I'd like to - let me go on record for > > this!). > > > That also depends on the buyers of SMSQ/E. I for one, would not > > have bought a Q60 under these circumstances. If you do, knowing > > that you are using a pirated copy of an OS and that the people > > gining it to you had not right to do so, then that's your decision. > > This license creates so many grey areas. For example, I have a QXL card, > but no OS, yet one was originally supplied with it. Do I have to buy > another copy of SMSQ? If I buy QPC do I have to pay for yet another full > copy of SMSQ or can I just pay the extra 10 Euros for each additional > version? [1] > > Bopttom line, maybe D&D are trying to get something for nothing. I hope > not, but the suspicion remains and I'll veto my Q60 purchase (which is > some way off anyway) until this issue is resolved and license fees are > shown to have been paid. No it's the other way round when I look at the paperwork - see other email - we are actually not charging for it and we do pay licence fees (Peter has paid them for us for convenience) and we have a few fees outstanding nothing much, exactly how many, don't know. That's somewhere in the paperwork on my left and I want to do the soldering on my right. The soldering wins. The total is nothing to make a fuss about. Apparently we cannot pay the few outstanding fees because we have to be resellers to hand the money over. The way it works, I think, is if I were to hand a few pounds Sterling to Wolfgang now, he would have to give it me back because I am not a reseller. So one of us must become a reseller to hand him the few pounds and then he can keep it. I do not know how it works (Peter has asked Wolfgang twice for me with no responce) but I think the above payment mechanism might be correct. I just want to make Q60s and bung them (Wolfy?) a few quid every now and again, that will do me but it has to be more complex. Dennis - D&D Systems
