Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 1 February 1999 at 12:11:36 -0500
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 > >
 > >It's an unusual step for a dial-up user to make direct SMTP
 > >connections from his system.  Examining why they occur, there seem to
 > >be 3 cases:
 > >
 > >1.  Misconfiguration.  They really should be going through their ISP's
 > >    mailserver.  
 > >
 > >2.  Spamming -- they're doing something they don't want to be visible
 > >    to their ISP.
 > >
 > >3.  Playing -- situations like home Linux boxes where people want to
 > >    make the connections direct because they can.
 > 
 > 4. Home networks.
 > 
 > I've got three PC's connected to a 3Com LAN modem: two Winblows boxes
 > and a Linux box. Rather than having the scattered MUA's talk to the
 > ISP's servers for POP and SMTP service, I'd like them to talk to my
 > local server. That way they can send and receive mail even when the
 > modem isn't connected or the ISP is down--an all-too-common
 > occurrence.

I guess I just don't think of running networks on a dialup these
days.  I had to expand to a second small (8-port) hub at home, but
they're all on static ips, so they don't look like anybody's dialup
pool. 

 > >So it doesn't seem that unreasonable to me to block SMTP from dialup
 > >pools.  The legitemate users appear to have perfectly reasonable
 > >options, and it stops one way of injecting spam.
 > 
 > I disagree. Yes, I could configure my server to pass everything off to 
 > the ISP's mail hub, but, frankly, I can do a better job of it than
 > they can. And switching to a more competant ISP is not an
 > option. Where I live, there's only one ISP that's reachable via a
 > local call.

Really?  How much better?  AND -- how many people are affected?  

 > Stopping spam is a worthy goal, but one must seriously consider the
 > costs associated. Preventing competent people from doing reasonable
 > things is not an acceptable cost.

I think there's a fair range of opinion available as to just what's
reasonable.  It's not really that cut-and-dried.
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David Dyer-Bennet                                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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