Dude, I don't normally chime in on flame wars, especially one's that have no
place being on a qmail mailing list, but if they are that bad, get some
capital investment and put them out of buisness.  I started an ISP years
ago, and it bombed miserably, mainly because at the time I was the only one
who had some clue what was going on in our company, and I tons more know how
than before.  Sounds like you could put them out of buisness in no time.

Incidentally, blocking dialup IP's is a BAD idea, the best way to stop SPAM
relay is to do tarpitting.  Here is a very simple and comical interaction
between a spammer using a dialup and any relay out there:

Server:  Hi I am an SMTP server
Client:  How ya doing my name is spam
Server:  ok spam go ahead and send whatever you want through me
Client:  ok here comes message 1
Server:  ok
Client:  Message 2
Server:  ok.....

Many messages later

Server thinking to itself:  Hmmm...It is very odd that this client should be
sending this many copies of one mail to all these different people, I am at
a hundred already, let's start puting in a 5 second pause between accepting
them.

Client:   message 100
Server:   Oh wait hold on a sec *twiddle*...3...2...1...  Ok I am ready
Client:   Message 101
Server:   Oh wait hold on a sec....

Server thinking to itself: MUHAHAHA if this guy is a real spammer and has
100,000 emails like a typical spammer it should take him 5.78125 days
MUHAHAHA!!!



Hey it's a monday! >:)

Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 4:45 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Three solutions for spam
>
>
> Dave Sill writes:
>
> > "Racer X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >Actually, his real problem is that he continues to patronize an ISP who
> > >doesn't provide him with adequate services.  The ISP is not at fault
> > >here.
> >
> > ISP's don't grow on trees, at least outside of U.S. metropolitan
> > areas.
>
> Well, that sucks then.
>
> > It's easy for you to say "use a different ISP", but not so easy for
> > some of us to take that advice. Care to cover my long distance charges
> > so I can switch?
>
> There's an old proverb, that goes something like this:
>
> "Life stinks."
>
> I think it was even a movie, once (a rather bad one, as I recall).  You
> have no civil or any kind of a right to high quality Internet access, and
> if the only thing that's available to you is some substandard setup like
> that, well, you'll just have to wait until your choices improve.
>

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