On Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 03:41:04PM -0500, Sam wrote:

> No, that's your answer right there.  This proposed feature is not going to
> benefit anything else except Qmail.  You do not stick features into system
> management tools unless there's a clear benefit that will profit at least
> a good fraction of the system that you are administering. 

If djb was interested in defining a way to verify his binaries to the
extent that he felt it was safe and secure, then I don't see why that
couldn't be added in.  It might take some effort (having not looked
through the rpm verification code, I don't know if it can define a
program to exec in the database to do verification... this could be a
nasty design problem).  However, let's keep in mind that when this
strategy was suggested by sdb, no-one stepped up to solidify the
proposal, and djb has not made a peep about how he feels about this.

> > I'm not saying that.  I'm saying that if the binary file editor will
> > break rpm --verify, then why not fork and extension of rpm which will
> > fix that?  It's open source.  It's allowed.  That's the whole argument
> > behind open source.
> 
> Well, go ahead and do it.  But unless you get Red Hat to accept your
> additions, it will be a wasted effort.

Personally I don't like the idea because I haven't been presented with
a method of verfication that is any more secure then placing necessary
uid info in a file.  So why go through the extra effort of forking
rpm, a package that is *very* widely deployed and supported (far more
widely then qmail - at least 100x more, maybe upwards of 1000x more),
and the only person who is causing any beef with it is djb?

-Peter

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