On 18 Jan 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  > On 18 Jan 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
>  > 
>  > > Mate Wierdl writes:
>  > >  > On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 12:22:44AM +0100, Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
>  > >  > > You show as little concern for the rights and feelings of others
>  > >  > > as spammers do.
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > Compuserve is about $15/mo in Hungary, and then comes the phonebill (no
>  > >  > unlimited service exists). A University's professor salary is about
>  > >  > $250-300/mo.
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > But: I think Russ was just suggesting things, and I am sure in light of
>  > >  > European and 3rd world statistics, the proposals will be modified.
>  > > 
>  > > No, I expect that in view of the costs, spam wouldn't be a problem, so 
>  > > that providers of high-cost dialup service would just insert an MX
>  > > record for all of their dialups.  Remember, the criteria is "ISP
>  > > trusts the host", not "host is a dialup".
>  > 
>  > I find that quite questionable, why would anyone want to receive
>  > mail for (suppose, which are _dynamic_ addresses)
>  > 
>  > pppN.host.domain ?
> 
> Nobody would look up the the MX record to send mail.  It would only be
> used for the anti-spam step #3 I laid out earlier: Get the host's name
> from a PTR record, and look up an MX record for it.  If it has an MX
> record, then the ISP is delegating it's trust to that dialup.  So if
> you trust the ISP to send you mail, then you trust it's dialup to send 
> you mail.

I find that quite, well, stupid. If i trusted the ISP in the first place,
we wouldn't be having this conversation. (there are other reasons besides
no trusting, like extra control over the delivery process)

> Very likely, all the people complaining would have no problem because
> their ISP would insert an MX record for their dialups.

And how would ISP set the MX records, all dialups users? selectively?

I would dare to speculate, that at some point, the ISP's would simply set
MX records, for *ALL* dialups address, and your measures would simple go
off to the drain.


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