Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Qmail claims it's a replacement for sendmail.

It is. It's just not a 100% compatible sendmail replacement. It
performs the same high-level functions, but almost all of the details
differ.

>They say 'after installing, read the docs,there are some minor differences'
>:-) LOL! But beware. That's vaporware.

No, read the docs *first*.

>Qmail is a package of programs, all neatly documented and worked out,
>to do something like sendmail does. It does it a whole lot different
>though. If you want it to behave like sendmail, you need to do a lot
>of things _after_ installing qmail.  You even need to install things
>that are not in the package, which you have to find online somewhere
>(checkpasswd ?). Therefore, qmail is not a (complete) replacement for
>sendmail.

s/checkpassword/dot-forward/, perhaps. If you want complete sendmail
compatibility, you need some add-ons. Many sites don't require this
level of compatibility, so these packages are not included with
qmail.

>* You have to deinstall sendmail before starting to install qmail.

No, they can co-exist until you decide to flip the switch.

>While installing qmail, you won't be able to do mail. Also, you will
>probably make quite some changes to your fs, which makes it hard to
>just give up and reinstall sendmail.

Not if you're careful.

>It's a good idea to completely backup your system...

Not really necessary, but always a good idea before major surgery.

>* There are some differences in securitymechanisms, for better or for
>worse.

Definitely for better.

>* Qmail is probably also more inviting to hackers, just because it's
>more human.

Hmm? I don't follow. I think qmail is clearly more secure, so cracker
activity shouldn't be too worrisome.

>* Some experience is necessary. It may take you some hours. Don't use an
>RPM (as of this date); qmail is _not_ fsstnd. Install it 'by hand',
>step by step.

True. Practice on a spare machine, if you can.

>-  qmail doesn't do /var/spool/mail. it tries to keep
>the mailboxes in the users' homedirectories (which is better).

It can use /var/spool/mail, if you want it to.

>other popdeamon and get it to cooporate with qmail. There's a techy bit ....
>And then you're not really 'running qmail', you're just using some bits of
>the qmail package.

No, you're still using qmail when you use a third-party POP/IMAP
daemon.

>In practice, a lot of things didn't work at my server. I had to move
>all the mboxes, rename & edit all .forward files (dotforward barfed),
>and decided not to even try fastforward

Migrating an entrenched sendmail system to qmail *is* complicated, and 
shouldn't be attempted by someone who isn't familiar with both
sendmail and qmail. Hire an expert if you don't qualify.

>Things were still not working and I had to invent complex
>workarounds.  A lot of handwork ... a week later, I had to do it all
>over again, to try and fix it.  The users got funny errors and
>received all the mail they left on the server several times .... even
>on such a small system as mine,
> it was HELL.

Mostly because you didn't know what you were doing.

>I'm glad I have it running  & I like it.
>But would I have known all this, I wouldn't have done it.

Come back in a couple years and tell us if you still feel that way.

>Sendmail, after all, was working fine.

Then why on Earth did you switch?

-Dave

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