On May 05, 1999 at 15:19:36 -0700, Mark Delany twiddled the keys to say:
> At 07:40 PM Wednesday 5/5/99, Rick Myers wrote:
> >Yes, but a `shutdown' generally won't wait for qmail-anything to finish.
> >At least on my system all processes get a -KILL within 30 seconds.
> 
> Right. But that's not how the standard qmail works, as others have noted. 
> Perhaps it's yet again the case of an rpm-styled installed doing "almost the 
> right thing". (I confess to continually seeing reasons why DjB was/is so 
> paranoid about others packaging up qmail).

Sorry, this installation is "by the book" as per the instructions in
INSTALL. This machine has never seen an rpm, and probably never will.
(That is, unless Mr. Volkerding and crew don't get it together before
glibc becomes de facto.)

> A proper and normal qmail shutdown is an orderly affair where all outstanding 
> deliveries are completed and accepted as complete prior to qmail-send exiting.

Right. It's been my own laziness that's kept me from rewriting the
shutdown script to wait for qmail-send to exit. I probably never will
though, since stopping qmail-send first is trivial and rarely needed
anyway.

> >For what it's worth, I've noticed quite a bit fewer dupes since 1.03.
> >And moreso since I've adopted the policy of giving qmail-send the -TERM
> >and waiting for it to die naturally before rebooting.
> 
> You would need to demonstrate this via log entries. I have seen no change in 
> behaviour in this regard with 1.03

Sorry again, I dumped the logs from last year. My previous comment can
be considered an opinion, but am I wrong in thinking that qmail-send ala
1.01 wasn't as orderly upon receiving a -TERM? I remember saying to
myself, "that's a neat feature" the first time I saw 1.03 log entries
stating that qmail-send was exiting asap. Maybe I just never noticed this
behaviour in 1.01, or maybe it just wasn't logged.

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