I don't think the characterization of DJB is entirely fair. He has
incorporated many user requested features in qmail. He does,
however, have a very rigorous approach to issues of design and
implementation. By that I mean he scrutinizes things carefully and
rejects those that do not measure up. As to obnoxiousness, he is
certainly pugnacious and does not suffer fools well. If that is a
reason not to use software we'd better all ditch our M$ products. I
believe Dan has shared some of his thoughts on DSN with this list in
the past.
I would not recommend Exim. I don't know of any published and
accepted security audit that would make me comfortable with it.
The author has specifically disclaimed any comprehensive security
awareness in writing Exim.
I'd probably use one of the commercial products if Netscape/Outlook
compatibility is the issue, because the commercial vendors will stuff
in any random garbage that they think will sell some product.
Sendmail does DSN's, and Weitse Venema has indicated an interest in
doing DSN in Postfix at some future time.
I personally would strip DSN on any messages to me anyway, as I
don't wish to be providing that level of visibility within my site
to J. Random miscreants.
Good luck.
-- Jeff Hayward
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Tasos Kotsikonas wrote:
Hi all,
I am not a subscriber of this list so if you have any relevant comments
please copy me too. Our company is looking around for qmail
replacements that do DSNs, after having sent a couple of emails
to Dan and received no replies on this issue. While talking to various people
about it, the following comments by one prominent entity in the
email world [identity withheld] was not atypical:
<<
However, the author of qmail is a problem. besides simply being one of the
more obnoxious people in the world, he is entirely rigid and unresponsive
to user requests, as his non-conforming bounce format demonstrates.
I would strongly encourage looking at exim. I've heard very good things
about it and the web page for it has an excellent tone. I'm told there is
a pretty serious mass migration from qmail to exim. Many of us are
delighted to hear it.
>>
So, is the final answer NO DSNs from qmail? Ever? Is there a
reason we can buy why? Please understand I do not want to be
part of the politics, I am just asking a very specific question to
which I have had no responses yet from Dan.
thanks
tasos