Hi Magnus,
Thanks for your reply.
At 08:21 5/08/99 +0200, you wrote:
>> I know that the archive is full of alias problems but so far I cannot
>> seem to find someone mentioning the simplest (and worst) problem of
>> them all: If an account exists that is the same name as a virtual-domain
>> specific alias (or even any alias for that matter), the account takes
>> preference over the alias and the mail goes straight to the account.
>
>This is not correct.
Which part?
>I don't know what you mean by "virtual-domain
>specific alias",
I meant (in /etc/aliases):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: account1 (domain specific alias)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: account2
AS OPPOSED TO
design: account1 (gloabal alias)
>but only domains that are local - i.e. exists in
>control/locals will result in an immediate delivery to the local user if
>the user exists.
> ALL local deliveries are done first.
All of the virtual domains I'm using are in control/locals AND
in control/virtdomains. If they weren't, I couldn't use them as domains
for all the local accounts. None of the domains are soley for either
purpose, they are all used for BOTH accounts and aliases.
Point is, Sendmail was able to have virtual domains apply to all
known accounts and aliases (WITH ALIASES CHECKED BEFORE ACCOUNTS).
>
>> Am I the only who thinks this is completey backwards???
>
>Unfortunately not.
Glad to hear that at least ;-)
>
>> Has anyone managed to get a sane alias system going under Qmail?
>
>yes. indeed.
>
>Check out
>http://x42.com/doc/qmail/vdomains1.txt
>for an old posting to this list.
>
>There will be a section in LWQ about this.
>
I did and strangely enough it doesn't vary from our setup very much
at all. More particularly, we have already achieved the goals of that
page. Only we DO have them in locals (to make the normal accounts respond
to that domain too) and we run the aliases straight from the /etc/aliases
(to keep the lusers from wiping their .qmail* files under FTP)
ie:
>>I am trying to set up multiple domains with multiple aliases. For
> example:
> Joe B. has a login of joeb and an email address of - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yet
> Joe H. has a login in as joeh and an email address of - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
I can already do this quite effectively :-)
What I CAN'T do is:
Joe B. has a login of "joeb" and an email address of - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(WORKS OK)
Joe H. has a login in as "joeh" and an email address of - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(STILL WORKS)
Joe ? comes along and gets the login "joe" for email of - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(DOH! THIS ACCOUNT GETS MAIL FOR ALL THREE OF THEM)
This was not the case in Sendmail. Why change?
As I mentioned earlier, I definately require BOTH kinds of
functionality for each domain (ie: local aliases AND local accounts).
We are a Virtual ISP / Web Domain hosting service and have about
200 virtual domains on this mailserver (about 50 of which have 100-500
local email accounts for each of that clients' users AND a gaggle of aliases
for themselves, some of which shorter than 8 chars eg: design, info).
This is why solutions such as "Domain only works for local aliases" or
"Domain only works for local accounts" are not even an option for us.
I need both. :-\
It just seems so silly to check accounts before aliases, for any reason
at all. I really can't fathom a single benefit from that order.
Thanks for the help anyway,
(sorry if I'm sounding out of sorts,
I am having the day from hell here)
Regards,
-Daniel
Daniel Callan
System Engineer/
Senior Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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