Def Leppard...
Also quoted in "Highlander" by the Kurgan
I wonder where they got it?
Def Leppard isn't known for the magnitude of their intellect.
Robbie " I want my MTV " Walker
At 01:14 AM 11/20/99 , you wrote:
>If you are worried about sniffing, nothing that isn't fully encypted
>is safe. POP, SMTP, telnet, etc. ad nauseum. Talk like "you can only
>sniff if you are root" is silly. I don't know where these people
>work, but everybody here has root for their machine, and certainly
>all the techies at your ISP do for theirs... And about those routers
>on the way...
>
>If you want security, HARD ENCRYPT YOUR CONTENT. And public key
>crypto is NOT hard. (comments from our distinguished author..?)
>Jeesh, people expect MI5 level security from 20 year old public
>protocols.
>
>
>BTW, Cobain stole that quote. I'll leave it as an exercise for the
>reader to figure out from who.
>
>
>
>On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, dd wrote:
>
>> [...]
>> AFAIK one of the documents related to qmail mentioned the insecurity of
>> POP3 protocol and said that in an insecure network the passwords could
>> easily be stolen. today i tried one of the sniffers for linux and got the
>> pass of my friend (of course, i told him that i did so). errm, if i can do
>> this, any other user can do the same too.
>
>And so more, you could even monitor a telnet connection ;)
>Of course if you are a superuser (e.g. root) and users of your subnet are
>too lazy to use ssh.
>
>> hmm, does qmail-pop3d support
>> any kind of encryption of the passwords ? so that i can guarantee the
>> security of the accounts of my users?
>
>There might be several posibilities for that.
>The most common and portable way is propably to use SSL encryption wrapper
>with actual POP, IMAP or any other protocol.
>
>If you want to check this out, go directly to a stunnel web page at
>http://mike.daewoo.com.pl/computer/stunnel, and don't forget to install
>latest OpenSSL or SSLeay code.
>
>Eventualy check my latest downloads at
>ftp://hal.umcs.lublin.pl/pub/security.
>
>> [...]
>> thx, peace and the other good things like haribo,
>> dd
>
>Sincerely,
>Marcin Jaskowiak
>
>"It's better to burn out than to fade away..."
> - Kurt Cobain
