On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 09:55:53AM -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 07:08:28AM -0500, Mate Wierdl wrote:
> 
> > BTWY, I know many people are attached to using DNS for rbl lookups,
> > but would not it be relatively simple to implement a server software
> > using tcpserver that would just lookup an IP number in a .cdb database
> > of IP numbers, and send an appropriate response?  A client might be
> > similarly simple to implement using tcpclient.
> 
> That would not allow for the rapid changes necessary in a blackhole
> list.  Imagine you are an ISP with several thousand customers.  Through
> an oversight, your mail server is blacklisted.  Would you rather wait
> for the tens or hundreds of thousands of sysadmins out there
> administering mail servers to remove you from their blackhole list or
> just submit it to the maintainer of the list and have it fixed in minute
> or hours?

I do not understand this comment: it seems you are arguing against the
very existence of rbldns.  And I was asking if rbldns could be
implemented in a less restrictive way---without the need for a domain
delegation.  As a separate but related question, I was also asking if
DNS needs to be involved in the first place.

The fact is a few thousand mail servers running rblsmtpd cannot use
relays.mail-abuse.org.  So now they all have to apply for a domain so
that they can use rbldns.  Or they can start patching rblsmtpd to use
A records---until relays.mail-abuse.org will change the record
structure again.

To address your concern: a reasonable site running rbldns would
transfer the zone from relays.mail-abuse.org frequently, so a change
at relays.mail-abuse.org would propagate to the mirrors quite quickly.

Mate 

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