On Wednesday 11 October 2000 02:13, Al Sparks wrote:
> > A: Created a nifty program so that when I try to access a mailbox
> > file, it's actually interfaced so that I'm accessing my maildir
> > B: Written a converter that I can run on the fly.
> > C: Figured out some other solution to this problem.
>
> I don't know of any solution of that kind. What you might consider
> doing, if you have a user base that you can't take off of that mbox
> only client is to create a separate server with sendmail on it, and
> forward the mail there for those selected users that want it.
Well, I can just use qmail to selectively store some user's email in mbox
format I think if it comes to that...
> > Also, anybody wanna explain IMAP to me? I'm confused as hell. I want to
> > have both an IMAP and POP3 server for the same email address. Now let's
> > say I use an IMAP client to move a mail from one folder to another (pray
> > tell, what are these "folders" and where are they? I dunno how to set
> > them up initially). Now when I use POP3, does it theoretically fetch
> > just the stuff in the "inbox" folder or all of it? What pop3 server
> > plays nice with courier-IMAP? Anything that uses maildir?
>
> While running IMAP and pop3 on the same server is ok, it happens all
> the time, I wouldn't recommend a user using both types of clients for
> the same address interchangeably. The fundemental difference between
> IMAP and POP3 is with IMAP you store your mail on the server, and with
> POP3 you download your mail to the local machine. With IMAP, your
> folders are created, and mail moved between the folders with each
> message remaining on that server. With POP3 you are downloading email
> from the server to the local machine's hard drive. The email client
> uses it's own system and protocols to create and administer folders.
Right.
> A POP3 and IMAP server will play nice with each other in the sense
> that they will mostly ignore each other. Since Courier IMAP also uses
> some sort of index file for each folder including the INBOX folder,
> and POP3 won't update that index file when you download email from it,
> there may be problems when a particular user tries to use one and then
> the other protocol to read their mail.
But does POP3 download all mail from the IMAP inbox or all mail in all IMAP
folders?
> You mentioned courier, and courier stores its folders in the
> $HOME/Maildir directory. Each folder has its own sub-directory. I
> don't know how much more detail to go into. Surely you know what a
> folder is? If you haven't seen any evidence of a folder that you
> created using an IMAP client, try using the "-a" switch when using the
> "ls" command. All Courier folders start with a ".".
Ahh, I'll look when I setup imap again...Can one have nested folders with
IMAP?
> > Is it possible to set my mail client to access localhost:110 for pop3 and
> > have it move the maildir stuff into it's own native mailbox files that
> > way?
> >
> > The last time I tried that my mail went straight into the void when I
> > tried to check it.
>
> Well, that's actually an imaginative idea. You might want look at
> configuring the client so that it's definition or location of INBOX
> doesn't interfere with any other program you have running on the
> system. I don't know what else to say on that. I'm not going to try
> it.
My mail client stores it's mail in it's own selectable directory, default
~/Mail, and subdirectories thereof - each directory contains an mbox
optionally and that's the way it stores it's data files...the problem I got
was that I tried to use fetchmail to fetch mail from my own server, only
fetchmail fed it into the SMTP (qmail), which didn't know what to do at that
point as you might imagine, and I believe it was endlessly looping all email,
including any incoming email...
> > Anybody know of any maildir-supporting console email programs?
>
> Mutt is the most popular. I've never used it.
Ahh, I'll use that - I have it installed, haven't used it though - I just
want something for telnet users.
- Casey
