--- Casey Allen Shobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 October 2000 02:13, Al Sparks wrote:
> > A POP3 and IMAP server will play nice with each other in the sense
> > that they will mostly ignore each other. Since Courier IMAP also uses
> > some sort of index file for each folder including the INBOX folder,
> > and POP3 won't update that index file when you download email from it,
> > there may be problems when a particular user tries to use one and then
> > the other protocol to read their mail.
>
> But does POP3 download all mail from the IMAP inbox or all mail in all IMAP
> folders?
Just the INBOX. POP3 never sees anything else. You have 2 download
choices when configuring a POP3 client. During download, the messages
are deleted from the INBOX, or conversely, are left in the INBOX.
>
> > You mentioned courier, and courier stores its folders in the
> > $HOME/Maildir directory. Each folder has its own sub-directory. I
> > don't know how much more detail to go into. Surely you know what a
> > folder is? If you haven't seen any evidence of a folder that you
> > created using an IMAP client, try using the "-a" switch when using the
> > "ls" command. All Courier folders start with a ".".
>
> Ahh, I'll look when I setup imap again...Can one have nested folders with
> IMAP?
>
Yes. Though inside the $HOME/Maildir directory, the subdirectories are flat.
Say you have folderB nested inside FolderA. The FolderB will show up in
$HOME/Maildir as the sub-directory ".FolderA.FolderB", and the messages will
be placed in that sub-directory. In other words, Courier will not create
a nested sub-directory structure to match the nested folders.
Again, this is referring to Courier IMAP. Other IMAPS may deal with this
differently.
> > > Is it possible to set my mail client to access localhost:110 for pop3 and
> > > have it move the maildir stuff into it's own native mailbox files that
> > > way?
> > >
> > > The last time I tried that my mail went straight into the void when I
> > > tried to check it.
> >
> > Well, that's actually an imaginative idea. You might want look at
> > configuring the client so that it's definition or location of INBOX
> > doesn't interfere with any other program you have running on the
> > system. I don't know what else to say on that. I'm not going to try
> > it.
>
> My mail client stores it's mail in it's own selectable directory, default
> ~/Mail, and subdirectories thereof - each directory contains an mbox
> optionally and that's the way it stores it's data files...the problem I got
> was that I tried to use fetchmail to fetch mail from my own server, only
> fetchmail fed it into the SMTP (qmail), which didn't know what to do at that
> point as you might imagine, and I believe it was endlessly looping all email,
> including any incoming email...
>
> > > Anybody know of any maildir-supporting console email programs?
> >
> > Mutt is the most popular. I've never used it.
>
> Ahh, I'll use that - I have it installed, haven't used it though - I just
> want something for telnet users.
>
> - Casey
That seems like the simplest solution. I'm not familiar with fetchmail,
but if it has IMAP built in as opposed to POP3, then configuring its IMAP
to point at the local host is cleaner than trying to use POP3. Apparently
some people configure pine that way, since it doesn't do to well with
directly reading the Maildir format.
One limitation of pine is that it apparently doesn't display nested folders
too well. Apparently pine will display nested folders with the same "dot"
format that I mentioned above. I say "apparently", because I haven't tried it.
I've used pine for years, but the only IMAP server I've configured it for
was the UW IMAP, which doesn't support nested folders.
Anyway, some users get religious about what client they want to use, and I
thought you might be dealing with users like that. Of course there are no
religious people in this group.... Sendmail is just as good as qmail. Right?
=== Al
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