On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 02:16:38PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote:
> Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 09:11:32PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote:
> > > Mr. Schneier is respected for his expertise and cryptography, and just
> > > because he states that head money for bugs is no good, does not make him
> > > an M S type weenie.
> > 
> > You're right, Bruce Scheiner is a god, and I'm really sorry for disagreeing
> > with him.
> 
> That is not what I meant, even subtracting sarcasm, irony and
> exaggeration. I'm saying that one particular opinion on a marginal topic
> that you disagree with does not make Mr. Schneier a bad person. Get a
> clue, in that you try to find out about that person as a whole before
> judging him.

When, exactly, did I say he was a bad person?  You are putting words in my
mouth.

Mate posted the following:

"He also thinks that even having a software out and used for a few
years without incidence does not imply that it is secure.  He says,
the best way to evaluate the security of a product is to have it
audited by security experts."

And I responded in context.  Whether or not you or Mr. Scheiier like it,
Microsoft has been using almost this exact argument to advocate their
software over Free Software for quite a while now.

I was informed (rather nastily) by Schneier disciples in subsequent postings 
that this opinion is not actually held by Mr. Schneier, and I (rather 
sarcastically) retracted my comments.  Do we really need to dwell on this 
anymore?  Or are we just arguing for the sake of arguing?

I admit that I did not go look up "Secrets and Lies", buy it, read it, and 
then read other material by B. Schneier before posting a reply, but whether 
or not I am a self-proclaimed "security expert" (I'm not), I am relatively
informed and knowledgable about computer security, and I am entitled to my 
opinion(s), whether or not they agree with Mr. Schneier's opinions, or the 
opinions of anyone else on this list.

--Adam

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