* Barley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001129 15:14]:
> Well, some people would say you are a "luser"
> (and it's loser, loser)
Um, no. ``luser'' stands for ``local user'' originally. Of course, it's
taken on something of a double entendre to describe the more clue-deprived
of the bunch.
> IT-Darwinism? What a moron. You figured everything out on your own did you?
Probably not. However, the questions I've been Robin ask on mailing lists
(and there have been some pretty stupid oversights! ;) have been fairly full
of description, log entries, command lines he tried, &c. And lo and behold!
he got a helpful, polite response every single time!
(BTW, I just assume Robin is a guy. (Sorry if I offend, Robin.) In my little
sheltered world, I like to think women aren't as foul-mouthed as he is. ;)
> Born using bash? Never took a single lesson. I've never wanted to email a
> punch in the face to someone more than to you. Your ego astounds me. I know
> a LOT of people that would make you look REALLY stupid were you to have a
> conversation with them. Try to remember that you aren't nearly as cool as
> your qmail setup would indicate.
Incidentally, I have seen Robin ask questions re: qmail and addons on other
mailing lists. He isn't perfect (horrors!). However, he is always fairly
thorough in his question-asking. I think therein lies his (and others')
frustration: people frequently come in *demanding* (not asking for) help,
not posting any real details about their environment, and get all freaky
when someone tells them, basically, ``We can't help you if you don't post
details.'' Yeah, that's what it boils down to.
> I can't believe the level to which this list has sunk. It's like the angry
> neo-nazi geeks list now. And it used to be quite helpful. There are many of
> us, newbies to qmail ourselves, who don't mind answering basic questions
> within our ability. I try to do so when I know an answer.
I'm being dead serious here: unsubscribe. Or create your own list. I don't
find Robin obnoxious (well, not *overly* so). Y'know why? Because I don't
give a crap what he writes. *They're* *just* *words*. There are plenty of
people on the list who help (of which Robin is one), but neither this list
*nor* *qmail* is for the faint-hearted.
About the ``neo-nazi'' [sic] attitude toward things like quoting text, line
wrapping, and whatnot, it's probably a reaction toward people using tools
they have no idea how to use (i.e., mail clients). Yeah it's a little
elitest, but some of us (apparently yourself included, mostly) have invested
a good deal of time in understanding netiquette (forget RFCs). We appreciate
when people follow commonly-accepted standards and get upset (at one level
or another) when people knowingly or unknowingly break those ``standards''.
It's really not that big of a deal to me...however, to be the best ``net
neighbor'' (gag!) people should really do a better job of trying to adhere
to those long-standing practices.
Or not. Whatever.
/pg
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Peter Green : Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)
(Seen somewhere on the net.)
