* Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> whines:
> I may be out of line here. However, this is not the first time I've
> seen snappy rude responses from people in response to others asking
> for help. I am simply quoting this message as it is the most recent.
*sigh* Is it September again? Just for completeness' sake: not only is
your MUA broken to the degree of utter braindeadness, you've also included
60 linux of *un*quoted quotes. Has anyone called you a clueless luser
lately?
> There is a certain level of experience necessary to know what may or
> may not be needed to diagnose a problem. As many of the people
> posting without this level of information are new to either Linux or
> qmail (or both) there needs to be some understanding on everyone's
> behalf.
Like what? If you need professional support, there are links galore on
http://qmail.org/. If you want to be spoonfed, you're simply looking in
the wrong place.
> And telling someone to RTFM is normally of little to no help.
The qmail docs are terse but exhaustive. We're not talking about running
$PORNO_VIEWER.exe but about a mail server - if you're too stupid to
manage even the initial setup, you *just* *don't* *need* *one*.
> As for qmail, I will be the first to tell you that LWQ and the
> installation instructions with qmail itself are for the most part
> highly inadequate.
Not quite. They're just not idiot-proof. But you've found that our
yourself already.
> I tried setting qmail up just from the instructions included with the
> source twice, with no luck.
See, that's your problem: contrary to popular superstition (fed by the
New Cultural Imperialism from Redmond) it does not take /luck/ to install
software. It takes /knowledge/. You appear to have neither. Well, tough
luck.
> Additionally, I tried LWQ twice, with no luck.
Yeah, right, Dave Sill really *is* an asshole: charging breathtaking
amounts of money for his crappy docs and not even dumbing them down so
that an amoeba^W^Wyou can understand them. It's free software, lackwit:
contribute nothing, expect nothing. Why didn't you fix the passages that
were "inadequate" and send Dave the patches, Jamin?
> [...] The documentation that currently exists is really only helpful
> to someone that has already installed the software once before.
Ummmm... nope.
> [...] Snapping at a user asking for help will accomplish nothing more
> than making the user angry and hesitant from posting in the future.
Do I care about angry lusers? I don't think so. Is it a Good Thing if
they don't bother people trying to get some work done? Sure is. So there.
> IIRC, these are not the goals of this list or any other support list.
It might come as a suprise to you and your likes, but this is /not/ a
support list. It's a discussion list. If you want support, you can find
the links to comm...
> All I ask is that common courtesy be extended to those asking for
> help.
Sure. Now, be a kind luser and do your reading. When you're done and
have reached the minimum level of cluefullness required for running an
internet service, come back and ask informed questions.
Sometimes I wonder what brings people like you to posting this whining
luser shit over and over and over again? This is not your new-age pink
treehuggers society - this is a technical discussion list. IT-Darwinism,
y'know? Survival of the brightest and, like, stuff. Huh-huh.
--
Robin S. Socha
Enhanced for MSIE 5.5: <http://socha.net/>
