From: "Kurth Bemis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> At 02:02 PM 3/9/2001, Sean C Truman wrote:
>
> after this post i'm a sending all messages regarding this to > /dev/null
>
> the point that i'm trying to convey is that commercial linux (or any nix
> for that matter) distros are not as good as other alternatives.  Let me
> give several reasons why (IMHO);
>

Who uses a distro straight out of the box for production use? I dont! Do
you?

> Where ever there is a buck to be made people start getting greedy and no
> longer take pride in their work....EG: Redhat7.  It isn't a distro, its a
> poor excuse for a waste of plastic.  I'm not going to go into the reasons
> why (if your interested contact me off list).  Redhat (and other
companies)
> are competing with each other.  Sure competition is good, however to
> compete they strive to get their product out to the public faster.  this
> means reduced quality of software.  no way around it.....I personally use
> Debian 22r2, why because Debian is IMHO the most robust, stable
> distro.  Debian just works, I install what I want to install and nothing
> more, no X no sendmail if i don't want it, it doesn't get installed.
>

Guess you haven't installed Redhat very much. They offer what is called a
expert mode
that lets you choose the packages you wish to install.

> Let me put it another way - What is redhat's business plan?  To make
money.
> What is OpenBSD's (Debian, FreeBSD, etc) business plan? Nothing, they
don't
> have one.  There is no money to be made.  This ensures that the OS is
> polished, bugs fixed, and is ready for prime time.  I personally love how
> redhat can package GLP'd software with their "secure server" and sell the
> package for $199.00USD.  Ohhhhh support thats what you want....if you need
> telephone support you probably should be looking over some how-to's or
some
> sort of documentation before installing linux.  The newbies who need
> telephone support are usually the ones who come to lug meetings saying
> things like "Linux sucks, It totally screwed up my whole system" or "I
> tried to start the installation from explorer but it didn't work."
>

I can download Redhat for free and so can you. They sell support for the
product so they
can have funding to continue the development. Just as OpenBSD sells t-shirts
and CD's to help fund the project.
only difference is that OpenBSD hasn't started selling support yet.

> well - i'll leave you to make your own decision...if you wish to discuss
> the matter further - contact me of list
>
> ~kurth
>

Sean Truman


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