well the issues have been resolved, ( learnt a lot about how different
servers handle bounces !!):
I was using qmail only for outgoing emails and had a rcpthosts file lying in
my /var/qmail/control.... i hpe you can guess the rest,
the bounces from domains aol, schwab were being refused.
On fixing the above, the bounces were again getting bounced, and i couldn't
send emails from an aol account to an account on my qmail server. The
reverse lookup for the external ip address i had wasn't working,
fixing that things are running smoothly now!
thanks,
Ketan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ketan Bajaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ketan Bajaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Greg White"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: incorrect_user@correct_domain accepted
> probably this is what is going wrong:
>
> this time i used qmail-remote directly :
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-remote schwab.com sender-envelope
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> qmail-remote exits with the report rK:
> *****
> r Recipient report: acceptance.
> K Message report: success. host has taken responsibility
> for delivering the message to each acceptable
> recipient.
> *****
> Now if sender-envelope address is at my qmail-server, the bounce never
comes
> back. If i change the sender-envelope address to some another address as
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], a bounce is received at that address!!
> which may mean
> either the remote hosts like aol.com and schwab.com are either not able to
> send the bounce message to the sender-envelope address at my qmail
server,
> which i have been using. (they don't like my server name/ip, but i checked
> that reverse lookup are fine !)
> or they are sending the bounce to the envelope, but qmail is not accepting
> them due to some reasons......
> -ketan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ketan Bajaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Greg White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: incorrect_user@correct_domain accepted
>
>
> > i tried something more :
> > sent messages to bad_user_names @yahoo.com, hotmail.com. My qmail logs
> show
> > that they bounce back immediately, with a error code 554 and 550
> > respectively. which is the correct and expected behaviour.
> > No i try again to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], i get
a
> > 250_ok (remote accepted message) !!! (they should have bounced back).
> >
> > is it that schwab.com, aol.com are delaying the bounce back and sending
> the
> > bounce back after sending the accept message ......
> > and my qmail logs when it gets the 250_ok message, doesn't write any
other
> > error info into logs for the same message id / delivery id. or maybe
> > qmail-remote closes connection with the remote server after seeing a
> 250_ok
> > message and thus doesn't get the delayed bounce ???
> > ( i'm sending the email using "mailto address", and putting a subject
with
> > no message body)
> >
> > as you've mentioned : you see the accept message and followed by a
bounce.
> > what i could be possibly missing? is it some sort of qmail-remote
> > configuration??
> > thanks,
> > Ketan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Greg White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: incorrect_user@correct_domain accepted
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:52:54PM -0700, Ketan Bajaj wrote:
> > > > i think i haven't been clear enough in explaining the problem...
> > > > again,
> > > > A (local smtp server) B (remote smtp server)
> > > >
> > > > B is at domain schwab.com, about which i do not know anything,
whether
> > it
> > > > has qmail, sendmail, exchange or anything else.
> > > >
> > > > 1. when A is setup as qmail, and remote address is incorrect@B there
> is
> > no
> > > > bounce from B and the message is accepted at B. I see this at the
> qmail
> > logs
> > > > on A.
> > >
> > > In sending them a test message, I too see the remote host accept the
> > > message, but it promptly bounces it with '550 User Unknown'. Your
qmail
> > > server is likely configured incorrectly -- you should be seeing the
> > > bounces. Please send a message, _headers and all_, that you sent to
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your qmail server...
> > >
> > > GW