At 26/07/03 26/07/03 -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
On Saturday 26 July 2003 06:55, eti wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Is there any new version of the pooled quota patch that would work with a
> newer wersion of qmaiadmin (1.0.24-1.0.25).

There is a new domain quota patch that actually ships with the newer vpopmail
devel versions (and I think with the newer qmailadmin devel versions too), but
it doesn't play nice with Maildir++ apps.

About six months ago I way saying that actual "domain quote" code is not usable in a production environment with mixed products, and I was heavily attacked. Happy to see opinions have changed.


Basically, if you want to use anything but vpopmail to deliver or modify your
mail, it won't work.

There was a pooled quota patch against 1.0.6 that was less sophisticated, but
actually played nice with Maildir++ apps. However, I don't think it has been reworked
for the newer development versions of qmailadmin.

I didn't do any new version. The one I produced at that time was ready to be merged with the current (at that time) qmailadmin, but has not even be considered by qmailadmin responsable. I've still not upgraded my version because I did not need to do it, and now I'm curious to see how qmailadmin is evolving before I lose time on re-coding on the last version.



> The ideea is great and i
> don't understand why it has not been already integrated in qmailadmin.

The old 1.0.6 patch was a hack, at best.

It was not an hack. It was an analytic answer to a need. Deeply analized, and shorlty coded. The fact it may be easy to code does not make a work less important, if you are used to keep analysis at the right place.


It just allows domain admins to rework
individual user quotas within a master domain quota limit. Quotas weren't dynamic,
and admins would actually have to do work.

It WANTS only to allow domain admins to rework individual user quotas, within their allowed domain quota.
Admins may chose to give more to some users, and less to others.
Quota are not aimed to be dinamic: it's a wanted choice.


The new patch which ships with the latest vpopmail devel versions (the one that
doesn't play nice with Maildir++ apps) is much more sophisticated. It allows totally
dynamic, pooled quota allocation under the master domain quota limit, as well as
individual user quotas within that master domain quota. However, as I mentioned
above, the design is fatally flawed in that it does not work with maildir++ apps.

Patch looks more sophisticated because there's a lot of coding, but starts from a wrong analysis, so it cannot be used reliabilly in a mixed environment.


Tonino

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