SenderID isn't necessary for sending to Hotmail Inbox. In fact I think
the only way to get into a Hotmail Inbox (instead of going straight to
Junk Mail) is by only sending spam.
Hotmail doesn't even publish SenderID, they publish SPF records.
$ host -t txt hotmail.com
hotmail.com text "v=spf1 include:spf-a.hotmail.com
include:spf-b.hotmail.com include:spf-c.hotmail.com
include:spf-d.hotmail.com ~all"
FYI: From Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/SenderID)
Syntactically SPF and SenderID are almost identical: Replacing the
string v=spf1 in a valid SPF policy by one of...
1. spf2.0/mfrom
2. spf2.0/mfrom,pra
3. spf2.0/pra,mfrom
4. spf2.0/pra
...yields a syntactically valid SenderID policy, and vice versa.
On 7/17/06, bb. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you,
As i remember, someone replied the same topic as
Hotmail does NOT checks for DomainKeys but i am not
sure.
Ok, adding to adress book maybe prevents but customers
(Foregion email owners) would dislike this.
I wonder those: 1-I set up SPF and reverse DNS but can
not send to inbox with that 8 month old QmailToaster
installation, if i update to new release with
DomainKeys will it be OK; and 2-If we patch
QmailToaster with SenderID, could we send to Hotmail
Inbox instead of Junk? (Is there a SenderID patch?)
Many thanks...
--- fuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jake Vickers wrote:
> > bb. wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is there any one who subscribed this list with
> Yahoo
> >> adress? I used to get QmailToasterList emails
> rigth
> >> inbox but for couple days i used to get ALL
> >> QmailToasterList emails in my Bulk folder.
> >>
> >> Also my ALL QmailToaster server emails goes to
> Yahoo
> >> Bulk and Hotmail Junk; and as i searched in
> >> dnsstuff.com, my IP is not in black list, i have
> a
> >> reverse DNS record and SPF record. My only guess
> is i
> >> installed QmailToaster 8 months ago so last
> version
> >> MAY work well OR do we have an other problem??!
> >>
> >> Is there anyone who has a server uses
> QmailToaster
> >> LAST or any previous version and emails are NOT
> >> delivered to Yahoo Bulk nor Hotmail Junk? Let we
> >> follow him / her for solition as what he / she
> did...
> >>
> >>
> > There have been a couple people who have broached
> similar questions. I
> > don't have an account with either of those, so I
> can't say for sure,
> > but I think they may have changed their mail
> filtering schema.
> > Hopefully someone has already encountered this and
> maybe has a working
> > solution?
> curious question for the MOTU, have you setup domain
> keys on the mailer box?
>
> qmt-mail shows up:
>
> Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.qmailtoaster.com)
> (38.99.66.144)
>
> dnsstuff.com shows:
> Answer:
> *No TXT records exist for www.qmailtoaster.com.*
> [Neg TTL=2560 seconds]
> Answer:
> *No TXT records exist for ns1.qmailtoaster.com.*
> [Neg TTL=2560 seconds]
>
> i assume the toaster mailer then is sending; and
> yahoo is receiving as domainkey-status:bad,
> therefore tossing it into the bulk folder.
>
>
> i toast for a small company as the company computer
> geek.
> i know that yahoo/hotmail use domainkey status to
> pre-sort incoming mail
> with domainkey-status:bad as bulk.
> i do not have domain keys setup for our company for
> various reasons.
> in testing, i found that mail from my domain to my
> yahoo account ends up in the bulk folder.
>
> by effectively "white-listing" (adding my domain
> sender to my yahoo contacts list),
> i short-circuit the bulk folder pre-sort...all mail
> from that sender goes straight to the inbox.
>
> bb, try to add the qmt sender to your contact
> list...that should solve your problem.
>
> also, this implies that anyone using ezmlm to mail
> out to those hosts
> (and probably others) needs to setup domain keys, if
> they do not want their
> mailings ending up in the bulk/junk folders of
> intended recipients.
>
> any of this sound plausible?
>
> fuzzy
>
>
>
>
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