> hmm actually if spam hits is over 12 points it generates a bounce.
>
> bounce message:
>
> rejected by: bounced (host domain.com[69.115.xx.xxx] said: 554 Your
> email is considered spam (17.50 spam-hits) (in reply to end of DATA
> command))


You are generating a REJECT NOT A BOUNCE

IMHO the bounce is generated on the sending server.

Is not your toasters fault. You just told the sender you don't accept his
spam message.

Is up to the sending mail server (are you mail.rollernet.us ???) what it
does with this information, and you can't control it. (is
mail.rollernet.us sysadmin dutty, tell him not to spam you, simple as
that).

You are not offending anyone, is mail.rollernet.us who is spamming you.

If your PHB tells you to avoid this by all the means necessary you can
allways disable simscan spam_hits variable in simscan and eat, eat, eat! a
lot of spam.

Obviously this is not recommended.



> smtp log:
>
> 2006-10-24 16:56:47.566033500 tcpserver: status: 0/100
> 2006-10-24 17:12:53.798053500 tcpserver: status: 1/100
> 2006-10-24 17:12:53.798058500 tcpserver: pid 1871 from 208.11.75.2
> 2006-10-24 17:12:53.798061500 tcpserver: ok 1871
> mail.domain.com:192.168.2.50:25 :208.11.75.2::35258
> 2006-10-24 17:12:56.898361500 CHKUSER accepted sender: from
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote <mail.r
> ollernet.us:unknown:208.11.75.2> rcpt <> : sender accepted
> 2006-10-24 17:12:57.194445500 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote <mail.rol
> lernet.us:unknown:208.11.75.2> rcpt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : found existing
> recipient
> 2006-10-24 17:12:57.696231500 simscan:[1871]:SPAM REJECT
> (17.50/12.00):0.4995s:***SPAM*** Faith Matt
> ers - Meet Catholic
> singles:208.11.75.2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2006-10-24 17:12:57.702238500 tcpserver: end 1871 status 0
>
> spamd log:
>
> 2006-10-24 16:56:47.535371500 [25696] info: prefork: child states: II
> 2006-10-24 17:12:57.351048500 [1378] info: spamd: connection from
> localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
> at port 35386
> 2006-10-24 17:12:57.356215500 [1378] info: spamd: processing message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> .rollernet.us> for clamav:89
> 2006-10-24 17:12:57.692273500 [1378] info: spamd: identified spam
> (17.5/5.0) for clamav:89 in 0.3 se
> conds, 1860 bytes.
> 2006-10-24 17:12:57.692647500 [1378] info: spamd: result: Y 17 -
> HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,HTM
> L_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1,MEET_SINGLES,MIME_HTML_ONLY,URIBL_AB_SURBL,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_SC
> _SURBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL
> scantime=0.3,size=1860,user=clamav,uid=89,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost.l
> ocaldomain,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=35386,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=no
>
> i actually want to prevent this also but i don't know where to go.
>
>
> On 11/7/06, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thank you. You cleared it up for me.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Sánchez Martín [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:25 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] How to discard spamassasin bounces
>>
>>
>> Returned by spamassassin???
>>
>>
>> Ok, let's figure it out the problem:
>>
>> The problem is one spammer sends you a forged From mail.
>>
>> 1.- If the mail From is not valid, is rejected by chkuser, no bounces
>>
>> 2.- If the mail Recipient is not a valid user on your mailserver is
>> rejected
>> by chkuser, so no bounces
>>
>> 3.- If spamassassin says has 12 (by default) hit points your smtp
>> rejects
>> it, so it doesn't generate bounces.
>>
>> 4.- If spamassassin says is below 12 is delivered to the mailbox. If
>> it's
>> correctly delivered no bounces are generated.
>>
>>
>> AFAIK Only if is the case 4 could generate bounces just for 4 causes:
>>
>> 1.- Incorrect configured account (for example, alias to non existent
>> accounts)
>> 2.- Mailbox full or something like this
>> 3.- Redirects to another server that bounces the mail.
>> 4.- You have a relay user that is a spammer
>>
>>
>> In which category your problem falls?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>>                                      |
>> David Sanchez Martin                 |         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Administrador de Sistemas            |       http://www.e2000.es
>> E2000 Nuevas Tecnologias             |
>>                                      |
>> E2000 Organizacion de Empresarios    |    Tel : +34 902 19 61 77
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>> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Enviado el: martes, 07 de noviembre de 2006 18:47
>> Para: [email protected]
>> Asunto: RE: [qmailtoaster] How to discard spamassasin bounces
>>
>> Thank you. I already have that set and that only deletes the incoming
>> wrong
>> user mail, not the email sent out as bounces.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: abdul khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:35 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] How to discard spamassasin bounces
>>
>> set up account to "catchall deleted"
>> It is under "qmailadmin".....
>>
>>
>> Alex wrote:
>> > Can someone help me figure out how to not send the bounce messages
>> back
>> > to the sender which are being returned by spamassasin?
>> >
>> > I am having issues with my server bombarding unsuspecting people whose
>>
>> > email was hijacked with spam bounces.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
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