Ok, understood.

You are using a backup MX that doesn't filter any spam.

You can enabl RELAY for that host "208.11.75.2" in /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp

Something like adding a line like this:

208.11.75.2:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan"

and doing a "qmailctl cdb"


This hopefully  disable spamassassin checking for that domain.

Maybe this isn't the best solution, anyway.

Could you afford a paid secondary MX  (with spam filtering, if possible)? :-S

> mail.rollernet.us is my secondary mx (its for free). unfortunately
> they don't like receiving bounce or reject messages coming from my
> primary mx so they disable my account automatically (they call this
> backscatter). this is something i dont want because i dont have a
> backup if my network goes down for some reason and i dont want to miss
> any mail.
>
> On 11/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > hmm actually if spam hits is over 12 points it generates a bounce.
>> >
>> > bounce message:
>> >
>> > rejected by: bounced (host domain.com[69.115.xx.xxx] said: 554 Your
>> > email is considered spam (17.50 spam-hits) (in reply to end of DATA
>> > command))
>>
>>
>> You are generating a REJECT NOT A BOUNCE
>>
>> IMHO the bounce is generated on the sending server.
>>
>> Is not your toasters fault. You just told the sender you don't accept
>> his
>> spam message.
>>
>> Is up to the sending mail server (are you mail.rollernet.us ???) what it
>> does with this information, and you can't control it. (is
>> mail.rollernet.us sysadmin dutty, tell him not to spam you, simple as
>> that).
>>
>> You are not offending anyone, is mail.rollernet.us who is spamming you.
>>
>> If your PHB tells you to avoid this by all the means necessary you can
>> allways disable simscan spam_hits variable in simscan and eat, eat, eat!
>> a
>> lot of spam.
>>
>> Obviously this is not recommended.
>>
>>
>>
>> > smtp log:
>> >
>> > 2006-10-24 16:56:47.566033500 tcpserver: status: 0/100
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:53.798053500 tcpserver: status: 1/100
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:53.798058500 tcpserver: pid 1871 from 208.11.75.2
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:53.798061500 tcpserver: ok 1871
>> > mail.domain.com:192.168.2.50:25 :208.11.75.2::35258
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:56.898361500 CHKUSER accepted sender: from
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote <mail.r
>> > ollernet.us:unknown:208.11.75.2> rcpt <> : sender accepted
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:57.194445500 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::> remote <mail.rol
>> > lernet.us:unknown:208.11.75.2> rcpt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : found existing
>> > recipient
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:57.696231500 simscan:[1871]:SPAM REJECT
>> > (17.50/12.00):0.4995s:***SPAM*** Faith Matt
>> > ers - Meet Catholic
>> > singles:208.11.75.2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:57.702238500 tcpserver: end 1871 status 0
>> >
>> > spamd log:
>> >
>> > 2006-10-24 16:56:47.535371500 [25696] info: prefork: child states: II
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:57.351048500 [1378] info: spamd: connection from
>> > localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
>> > at port 35386
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:57.356215500 [1378] info: spamd: processing message
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > .rollernet.us> for clamav:89
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:57.692273500 [1378] info: spamd: identified spam
>> > (17.5/5.0) for clamav:89 in 0.3 se
>> > conds, 1860 bytes.
>> > 2006-10-24 17:12:57.692647500 [1378] info: spamd: result: Y 17 -
>> > HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,HTM
>> > L_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1,MEET_SINGLES,MIME_HTML_ONLY,URIBL_AB_SURBL,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_SC
>> > _SURBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL
>> > scantime=0.3,size=1860,user=clamav,uid=89,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost.l
>> > ocaldomain,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=35386,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=no
>> >
>> > i actually want to prevent this also but i don't know where to go.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/7/06, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Thank you. You cleared it up for me.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: David Sánchez Martín [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:25 AM
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] How to discard spamassasin bounces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Returned by spamassassin???
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ok, let's figure it out the problem:
>> >>
>> >> The problem is one spammer sends you a forged From mail.
>> >>
>> >> 1.- If the mail From is not valid, is rejected by chkuser, no bounces
>> >>
>> >> 2.- If the mail Recipient is not a valid user on your mailserver is
>> >> rejected
>> >> by chkuser, so no bounces
>> >>
>> >> 3.- If spamassassin says has 12 (by default) hit points your smtp
>> >> rejects
>> >> it, so it doesn't generate bounces.
>> >>
>> >> 4.- If spamassassin says is below 12 is delivered to the mailbox. If
>> >> it's
>> >> correctly delivered no bounces are generated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> AFAIK Only if is the case 4 could generate bounces just for 4 causes:
>> >>
>> >> 1.- Incorrect configured account (for example, alias to non existent
>> >> accounts)
>> >> 2.- Mailbox full or something like this
>> >> 3.- Redirects to another server that bounces the mail.
>> >> 4.- You have a relay user that is a spammer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In which category your problem falls?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>> >>                                      |
>> >> David Sanchez Martin                 |         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Administrador de Sistemas            |       http://www.e2000.es
>> >> E2000 Nuevas Tecnologias             |
>> >>                                      |
>> >> E2000 Organizacion de Empresarios    |    Tel : +34 902 19 61 77
>> >>       Mediadores de Seguros          |
>> >>                                      |
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>> >> 33120 Pravia Asturias Spain          |
>> >>                                      |
>> >> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>> >>
>> >> -----Mensaje original-----
>> >> De: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Enviado el: martes, 07 de noviembre de 2006 18:47
>> >> Para: [email protected]
>> >> Asunto: RE: [qmailtoaster] How to discard spamassasin bounces
>> >>
>> >> Thank you. I already have that set and that only deletes the incoming
>> >> wrong
>> >> user mail, not the email sent out as bounces.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: abdul khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:35 AM
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] How to discard spamassasin bounces
>> >>
>> >> set up account to "catchall deleted"
>> >> It is under "qmailadmin".....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Alex wrote:
>> >> > Can someone help me figure out how to not send the bounce messages
>> >> back
>> >> > to the sender which are being returned by spamassasin?
>> >> >
>> >> > I am having issues with my server bombarding unsuspecting people
>> whose
>> >>
>> >> > email was hijacked with spam bounces.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
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