> Well you guys never answered my question, so I had to learn something on
> my own again (dang) ;-) I found a solution!

Well, the rest of the list tend to do something appart from reading your
emails Quinn :-P :-P :-P

Maybe, you should swap priorities between "send-email-to-list" and
"learn-on-my-own-again" in /var/qmail/control/troubleshooting/actions to
make the lattest being the first.

Just kidding :-P

> Mail to local users STILL is delivered to local users! (Whaaa?)
>
> Yeah, mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or `echo 'hello' | mail j`
> actually sends mail to a local user. The user would still be able to check
> this mail using their /etc/passwd file and old username if vpopmail was
> compiled to allow it, but currently it wont:
>   system passwords = OFF --disable-passwd (default)
>
> So mail is delivered into ~/Maildir for each user. But they cannot check
> this mail. So, we must do a forward.
>
> To forward a real local user to a remote address, you give the user a
> ~/.qmail file. This is the qmail-version of the .forward file.
>
> So, for example...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 control]$cat /home/j/.qmail
> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> It *does not work* to put the qmail file in: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-j
> because this place only works for users that don't exist (local or
> virtual).
>
> So now I will make a script to go through all local user home directories,
> and create the necessary Maildir and .qmail file and direct to their main
> email address (e.g. /home/j/.qmail -> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>
> Quinn

Nice research :-)

>
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:50:44 -0800, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>> I'm still trying to troubleshoot this... On a qmail system, what is
>> the difference between these two?
>>
>> echo "hello" | mail -s 'testing1' root;
>>
>> echo "hello" | formail -A 'Subject: testing2' | sendmail root;
>>
>> Q
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:00:53 -0800, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>>> Return-Path:
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> From
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Fri Nov 10 18:02:24 2006
>>> Return-Path:
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Received: (qmail 23776 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:24 -0000
>>> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Received: (qmail 23769 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:24 -0000
>>> DomainKey-Status: no signature
>>> Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 23659, pid: 23665, t: 5.6275s
>>>          scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.5/m:41/d:2183 spam: 3.1.7
>>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on
>>>     mailserver.strangecode.com
>>> X-Spam-Level:
>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.2
>>> tests=BAYES_00,DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME
>>>     autolearn=ham version=3.1.7
>>> Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.qmailtoaster.com) (38.99.66.144)
>>>   by mailserver.strangecode.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted)
>>> SMTP; 10 Nov 2006 18:02:18 -0000
>>> Received-SPF: pass (mailserver.strangecode.com: SPF record at
>>> qmailtoaster.com designates 38.99.66.144 as permitted sender)
>>> Received: (qmail 811 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:05 -0000
>>> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by
>>> ezmlm
>>> Precedence: bulk
>>> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> List-Unsubscribe:
>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>> Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected]
>>> Received: (qmail 805 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:05 -0000
>>> Received-SPF: none (ns1.qmailtoaster.com: domain at strangecode.com
>>> does not designate permitted sender hosts)
>>> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:00:53 -0800
>>> From: Quinn Comendant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Mime-Version: 1.0 (GMessage framework 1.3.9)
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> X-Mailer: GyazMail version 1.3.9b5
>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] forwarding mail for real users to their
>>> virtual
>>>  counterpart
>>>
>>> A related error with messages intended for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at two.strangecode.com.
>>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>>> addresses.
>>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>>
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Sorry, I couldn't find any host named
>>> localhost.mailserver.strangecode.com. (#5.1.2)
>>>
>>> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>>>> With sendmail I would have just added a /home/mmartin/.forward file.
>>>> I tried adding /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-mmartin -- but didn't work.
>>>>
>>>> Ideas?
>>>
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