I agree, David. :) (Just ribbing you, Quinn).

Honestly though, I didn't reply simply because I didn't know. I've never
had 'local' users.

This would definitely be a nice piece for the wiki. I'd like to see it under
Tips'N'Tricks, with possibly a link from the FAQs.

I hate to as Quinn to do it since he found the solution, but I suppose that
is what makes him most qualified to write it. ;)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Well you guys never answered my question, so I had to learn something on
>> my own again (dang) ;-) I found a solution!
> 
> Well, the rest of the list tend to do something appart from reading your
> emails Quinn :-P :-P :-P
> 
> Maybe, you should swap priorities between "send-email-to-list" and
> "learn-on-my-own-again" in /var/qmail/control/troubleshooting/actions to
> make the lattest being the first.
> 
> Just kidding :-P
> 
>> Mail to local users STILL is delivered to local users! (Whaaa?)
>>
>> Yeah, mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or `echo 'hello' | mail j`
>> actually sends mail to a local user. The user would still be able to check
>> this mail using their /etc/passwd file and old username if vpopmail was
>> compiled to allow it, but currently it wont:
>>   system passwords = OFF --disable-passwd (default)
>>
>> So mail is delivered into ~/Maildir for each user. But they cannot check
>> this mail. So, we must do a forward.
>>
>> To forward a real local user to a remote address, you give the user a
>> ~/.qmail file. This is the qmail-version of the .forward file.
>>
>> So, for example...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 control]$cat /home/j/.qmail
>> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> It *does not work* to put the qmail file in: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-j
>> because this place only works for users that don't exist (local or
>> virtual).
>>
>> So now I will make a script to go through all local user home directories,
>> and create the necessary Maildir and .qmail file and direct to their main
>> email address (e.g. /home/j/.qmail -> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>>
>> Quinn
> 
> Nice research :-)
> 
>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:50:44 -0800, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>>> I'm still trying to troubleshoot this... On a qmail system, what is
>>> the difference between these two?
>>>
>>> echo "hello" | mail -s 'testing1' root;
>>>
>>> echo "hello" | formail -A 'Subject: testing2' | sendmail root;
>>>
>>> Q
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:00:53 -0800, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>>>> Return-Path:
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> From
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Fri Nov 10 18:02:24 2006
>>>> Return-Path:
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Received: (qmail 23776 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:24 -0000
>>>> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Received: (qmail 23769 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:24 -0000
>>>> DomainKey-Status: no signature
>>>> Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 23659, pid: 23665, t: 5.6275s
>>>>          scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.5/m:41/d:2183 spam: 3.1.7
>>>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on
>>>>    mailserver.strangecode.com
>>>> X-Spam-Level:
>>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.2
>>>> tests=BAYES_00,DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME
>>>>    autolearn=ham version=3.1.7
>>>> Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.qmailtoaster.com) (38.99.66.144)
>>>>   by mailserver.strangecode.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted)
>>>> SMTP; 10 Nov 2006 18:02:18 -0000
>>>> Received-SPF: pass (mailserver.strangecode.com: SPF record at
>>>> qmailtoaster.com designates 38.99.66.144 as permitted sender)
>>>> Received: (qmail 811 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:05 -0000
>>>> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by
>>>> ezmlm
>>>> Precedence: bulk
>>>> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> List-Unsubscribe:
>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>> Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected]
>>>> Received: (qmail 805 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2006 18:02:05 -0000
>>>> Received-SPF: none (ns1.qmailtoaster.com: domain at strangecode.com
>>>> does not designate permitted sender hosts)
>>>> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:00:53 -0800
>>>> From: Quinn Comendant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Mime-Version: 1.0 (GMessage framework 1.3.9)
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>> X-Mailer: GyazMail version 1.3.9b5
>>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] forwarding mail for real users to their
>>>> virtual
>>>>  counterpart
>>>>
>>>> A related error with messages intended for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at two.strangecode.com.
>>>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>>>> addresses.
>>>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>>>
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> Sorry, I couldn't find any host named
>>>> localhost.mailserver.strangecode.com. (#5.1.2)
>>>>
>>>> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>>>>> With sendmail I would have just added a /home/mmartin/.forward file.
>>>>> I tried adding /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-mmartin -- but didn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideas?


-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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