Well, we probably don't need it that bad that then.

Thanks
John



On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Eric Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know, short of looking at the code. That would be in the (heavily
> patched) source code for the qmail-smtp program. Looking that up would not
> be a trivial exercise.
>
> Tek Support wrote:
>> As you said (would have to), how do I determine the order they are
>> run?  Is it simply that the DKIM header is added on top of the
>> simscan, thus simscan first and dkim 2nd?
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Eric Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Simscan does scan outbound mail, but scans only for viruses (clamav), not
>>> spam (spamassassin). This is consistent with the message you're seeing.
>>>
>>> Adding the DK signature would (have to) happen after this scan.
>>>
>>> Tek Support wrote:
>>>> Hi Eric, thanks for the quick reply.  The reason I think it's doing
>>>> outbound scanning is a specific line in the header, maybe you can shed
>>>> some light on it.  In an email sent from mydomain to my yahoo accout
>>>> these are in the headers.  The line I'm interrested in, is possibly
>>>> added by yahoo, but I think it's from me.
>>>>
>>>> Received:   by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 4768, pid: 4895, t: 0.0658s
>>>> scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.93.3
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't simscan be run on my box, and if so, would it be done before
>>>> DKIM or after?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Eric Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> Tek Support wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all, recently I had asked if there was a reason to use the port 587
>>>>>> if I installed spamdyke (because spamdyke authenticated my dynamic
>>>>>> users and ignored the rbls).  Well, maybe I've found something that
>>>>>> would still require me to use 587 instead of port 25.  I would
>>>>>> appreciate any info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As of right now, my staff are using port 25 for outbound - I just
>>>>>> didn't see the need to have another port open to the outside when
>>>>>> after installing spamdyke, they were able to send and were not blocked
>>>>>> as "dynamic".  But the staff have been having trouble sending to
>>>>>> yahoo.com, and in looking at the headers on a message that finally
>>>>>> arrived into yahoo (and gmail) the headers show this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Authentication-Results:   mta553.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=mydomain.com;
>>>>>> domainkeys=fail (bad sig)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I had gone through the process step by step and tested my DKIM
>>>>>> with the sourceforge.net sites, and those showed that my dkim seemed
>>>>>> accurate.  So, anyway in a brilliant flash of light I decided to try
>>>>>> port 587, and on my first try I got these headers in an email sent to
>>>>>> yahoo and gmail:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Received-SPF: pass ....
>>>>>> DomainKey-Status: good
>>>>>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I guess my question would be, does something in the spam checking
>>>>>> on outbound emails from pop3/smtp users (not imap and squirrelmail)
>>>>>> with spamdyke, rewrite the headers after the dkim has processed the
>>>>>> email which would cause my DKIM hash to be invalid when yahoo and
>>>>>> gmail check it?
>>>>> I don't believe that spam checking is enabled on outgoing mail, at least 
>>>>> not
>>>>> in the 'stock' toaster. So the answer is, not that I'm aware of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note, squirrelmail gets a 'free pass' (open relay), due to the localhost
>>>>> line in the /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, be aware that DK and DKIM are 2 different things. The toaster has a
>>>>> (somewhat broken, at least on the incoming side) DK implementation. The
>>>>> toaster has no DKIM capability.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose that DK might work (better) with the port 587 configuration than
>>>>> with port 25. I wouldn't know why though, as I'm not familiar with the
>>>>> problem(s) that DK has. We had a fellow in Russia on the list a while back
>>>>> who fixed some things with it, but we haven't heard from him in quite a 
>>>>> while.
>>>>>
>>>>>> CentOS 5
>>>>>> x86_64bit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -Eric 'shubes'
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Eric 'shubes'
>>>
>
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> -Eric 'shubes'
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