Hi all, Although I am new to this list, I have been running a Linux user group for over a decade, and have done software development that dealt with Open Source. Perhaps another perspective could be useful.
It is sad but true that nobody wants to pay for software. No matter how much we understand the amount of hard work that goes into it, businesses won't pay for it. If there are two ways to get something done and one of them is free, most businesses will choose the free route. I suspect that the number of Qmail Toaster users would drop dramatically if you had to either pay for a tool to create multiple virtual domains, or had to use the CLI to do it. Some really good - and good looking - documentation on creating virtual domains via CLI might help retain some users who would otherwise go elsewhere, but probably not many. I have worked at a software development company that tried to take the middle ground, charging for add-ons while donating to the core project (anybody remember Metro-X?). But in the end it was not commercially viable. Sorry to be negative about this, but it's what I have seen and experienced. Right now you have a graphical tool that mostly works, even if it does have bugs. It is free which means Qmail Toaster is free, so you have a large user community that advocates for you (which is how I learned about this project). The problems that come from vqadmin's bugs may be easier to live with than the effects of charging for improved software. --Adam On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Phil Leinhauser <p...@teqknow.com> wrote: > I would normally agree with you Steve but this is a bit different. > > For the home users with one domain, QControl is free. For anyone running > more than one domain we are most likely running commercially. QMT and MOST > of the accessories are free and the service in this forum is better than > most paid support systems from the big guys like IBM, Dell, MS.... Throwing > Jake a few bucks for his tool is money WELL spent. These guys are always on > top of anything and they spend considerable time with updates, patches, etc. > for NOTHING! I say throw him the business. > > VQadmin is BROKE. That fact is noted in several places yet users still > stumble upon it and cause traffic in here. > > Phil > > > > > > On May 19, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > > > >> Once again, I'd like to recommend that vqadmin be dropped from QMT. > >> The problems it has appear to outweigh the benefits it provides, > >> especially now that qcontrol is available. > >> > >> Does anyone have any objections to this? I think it deserves some > >> discussion. > > > > > > i have no objection per se to dropping vqadmin; however, it seems a > > bit disingenuous to propose QControl as the appropriate replacement, > > given that it's commercial software. a statement such as "vqadmin is > > broken, so we're dropping it; you'll need to use the command-line > > tools to add and delete domains" would, i think, do a better job of > > setting appropriate expectations in the minds of users who don't > > follow this list. > > > > -steve > > > > -- > > If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an > > improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v > > http://five.sentenc.es > > > > >
