Yea I know where the bugs are.. a little mixup..
And I never needed vqadmin for anything..
But I guess it could be usefull to some..
On 19 mei 2009, at 20:12, Eric Shubert wrote:
The bugs are in vqadmin, not qmailadmin. qmailadmin works fine.
You're wise (or lucky?) to not use vqadmin for anything but inquiries.
Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
Hi,
If some people would make a list of the most important bugs in
qmailadmin I am sure they can be fixed..
I never use vqadmin, so I have no clue about what works or not, but
I am capable of fixing it.
JP
On 19 mei 2009, at 19:56, Adam Glass wrote:
Hi all,
Although I am new to this list, I have been running a Linux user
group for over a decade, and have done software development that
dealt with Open Source. Perhaps another perspective could be
useful.
It is sad but true that nobody wants to pay for software. No
matter how much we understand the amount of hard work that goes
into it, businesses won't pay for it. If there are two ways to
get something done and one of them is free, most businesses will
choose the free route.
I suspect that the number of Qmail Toaster users would drop
dramatically if you had to either pay for a tool to create
multiple virtual domains, or had to use the CLI to do it.
Some really good - and good looking - documentation on creating
virtual domains via CLI might help retain some users who would
otherwise go elsewhere, but probably not many.
I have worked at a software development company that tried to take
the middle ground, charging for add-ons while donating to the core
project (anybody remember Metro-X?). But in the end it was not
commercially viable.
Sorry to be negative about this, but it's what I have seen and
experienced. Right now you have a graphical tool that mostly
works, even if it does have bugs. It is free which means Qmail
Toaster is free, so you have a large user community that advocates
for you (which is how I learned about this project).
The problems that come from vqadmin's bugs may be easier to live
with than the effects of charging for improved software.
--Adam
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Phil Leinhauser <p...@teqknow.com
<mailto:p...@teqknow.com>> wrote:
I would normally agree with you Steve but this is a bit
different.
For the home users with one domain, QControl is free. For anyone
running more than one domain we are most likely running
commercially. QMT and MOST of the accessories are free and the
service in this forum is better than most paid support systems
from the big guys like IBM, Dell, MS.... Throwing Jake a few
bucks for his tool is money WELL spent. These guys are always on
top of anything and they spend considerable time with updates,
patches, etc. for NOTHING! I say throw him the business.
VQadmin is BROKE. That fact is noted in several places yet users
still stumble upon it and cause traffic in here.
Phil
>
> On May 19, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
>
>> Once again, I'd like to recommend that vqadmin be dropped
from QMT.
>> The problems it has appear to outweigh the benefits it
provides,
>> especially now that qcontrol is available.
>>
>> Does anyone have any objections to this? I think it deserves
some
>> discussion.
>
>
> i have no objection per se to dropping vqadmin; however, it
seems a
> bit disingenuous to propose QControl as the appropriate
replacement,
> given that it's commercial software. a statement such as
"vqadmin is
> broken, so we're dropping it; you'll need to use the command-
line
> tools to add and delete domains" would, i think, do a better
job of
> setting appropriate expectations in the minds of users who
don't
> follow this list.
>
> -steve
>
> --
> If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an
> improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
> http://five.sentenc.es
>
>
--
-Eric 'shubes'
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