Oh, no doubt the setup/install of QMT is easier than Qmailrocks.  I was/am a
Windoze admin up until a couple years ago when necessity dictated that I
learn some Unix/Linux.  I landed in Ubuntu land, and that's what I've been
using, for the most part, and have several machines running qmail using
Qmailrocks on Ubuntu.  But, as I said in the original post, I've also
learned there's some things with Qmailrocks that, well, shouldn't be.  :-)

So, I'm embarking on a migration in that area.  I've had a machine running
QMT for a month or two now, that I'm basically just playing with, and so far
I do like the additional functionality, no doubt, and yes, it is easier to
get a working box.  QMT-Plus also makes it nice.  I've been using SpamDyke
w/qmail for a year or two (On Qmailrocks setup), and that's prolonged the
existing servers life...But, it's time to move on.

The support for QMT, as you mentioned, is great.  Qmailrocks is dead.  So,
of course there's a great difference, although, for the most part, I haven't
needed much support in the past (Knock on wood), but, it is nice to know
it's there if needed.

I'm still not an expert by any means with Linux, so beyond Ubuntu, and some
playing with CentOS with a Trixbox, I haven't experienced many flavors of
Linux, but I guess they're all similar, much like the various flavors of any
OS.  But, it would seem some my be better suited for some services than
others...

What I'm looking to replace is a fairly "Kluged" together mail server
cluster.  A cluster of a cluster, if you will.  :-)  I've got a few boxes
that run Qmail w/spamdyke, that act as filtering servers, that then pass the
"Cleaned" mail onto the actual customer mail servers, also running qmail.
It all works fine, but is lacking some specific items, that QMT does add,
mainly chkuser.  Backscatter spam isn't just annoying, it's rude.  :-), and
like all non-patched qmail servers, I'm guilty, so I've been looking at
various solutions for a while, and have narrowed it down to basically QMT or
installing from source, potentially blending a couple different "Perfect"
qmail installs.

So..  I could just install QMT on all of them, and be done.  Or, would it be
better to stay with a Debian based OS that I'm familiar with (Although, all
I really do with them is e-mail, so there's not much to "Do" with them after
they are up and running!).  If I go with the "Roll your own" method, I could
choose an OS, and maybe only install the functionality that I need on each
server...  But, then again, it would be more efficient to just put QMT on
all of them.  :-)

Let me ask this...  The chkuser functionality uses Vpopmail to actually
check for valid accounts, right?  And, I'm assuming that changing the
default database that Vpopmail uses is trivial?  (I've actually not done it,
but I would think it would be just modifying a file).  My goal is to have
the "Filtering" servers use chkuser to validate recipients, but to actually
have only a single database with users in it, and instead of using a script
or something to push a cdb file out to each server, I would think you could
point the "Filtering" servers vpopmail to check the vpopmail database that a
"Central" mail server maintains.  ???  Am I smokin' crack?  

Thanks again for the ear guys, and sorry for the long-winded post.  I
usually only lerk on lists I'm one, trying to soak up info...But, I've got
to do get this done, so I'm trying to get some specific information to get
me pointed in the right direction.

Mike



 
Michael J. Colvin
NorCal Internet Services
www.norcalisp.com
 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Canty [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Stupid Question...Or two.
> 
> Mike,
>       If it is of any consequence.  I have recently moved from a Fedora
> Core 7 machine that I had installed Qmailrocks on.  I found that the
> upgrades were a little slow, limited documentation and I needed a couple
> of
> features that were not present.
> 
> After looking at a range of different Qmail options I chose to use the QMT
> version.  I also wanted to keep using Fedora or Red Hat, as this is in
> place
> on a few of my machines.  As a result CentOS was the obvious choice (Red
> Hat
> without the Red Hat support).
> 
> I have now put the server in place with the QMT for CentOS 5.3 and this
> went
> well.  I have also added the QMT Plus package, and sent some time tuning
> my
> system using the videos supplied by Jake.
> 
> I did have an issue, but the excellent forum provided me with the
> information to fix my issues.
> 
> After the install I now have a machine that is supported for a few years
> at
> least, running in a stable environment, offering advanced features my
> Qmailrocks install didn't.  Oh, and the QMT install was very easy compared
> to Qmailrocks.
> 
> Just my thoughts
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Colvin [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, 17 August 2009 9:47 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Stupid Question...Or two.
> 
> Ok.  This is probably a stupid question, but... It's Sunday, so I'm
> entitled
> to one stupid question.  :-)
> 
> I've been using Qmail for many years (10), although only admining one
> myself
> for the past 3.  I originally used "Qmailrocks", and am aware of its
> shortcomings and issues, compared to "Modern" flavors of qmail.
> 
> So...  What's the differences between Qmail Toaster, Bill Shupp's Qmail
> Toaster, and netqmail?  I don't mean the obvious (QMT being an ISO), but
> more along the lines of the "Finished Product".  What's better/worse about
> the three versions?
> 
> Also, and this is more for Jake I think, other than being based on CentOS
> 5,
> what's the difference between the "Free" version of your QMT and the QMT5
> version?  I have no problem paying you for the QMT5 version, but am
> curious
> as to the reason for two versions?  Is CentOS5 that much better?  (I'm not
> a
> CentOS person, so I'm not sure.)
> 
> Anyway, thanks for the time!
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
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