Perfect.

Oh, and, I only wanted to explain why it'd be important for me to deselect 
features of spamdyke that don't fit my needs.

Martin

Am 21.06.2010 um 18:09 schrieb Eric Shubert:

> You can use whichever features you choose. It's up to you.
> 
> Of course fighting spam is always a balancing act with a wide array of 
> dependencies. Finding the best balance takes some doing. The flexiblity that 
> spamyke provides makes it useful in most circumstances.
> 
> Note, I don't necessarily agree with your policy, but I don't see any purpose 
> in debating it here. If it works for you, great. However, you can use a lot 
> more of spamdyke's filters than one RBL, without getting any false positives.
> 
> -- 
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
>> Thanks for the explanation Eric & Michael,
>> I would like to use SpamDyke, but only very ver conservatively. E.g. if I 
>> could block people that I block now (cbl.abuseat.org) during SMTP, that 
>> would be great. The other features like greylisting etc., I would not like 
>> to use.
>> My own policy (as long as my mail server has the bandwidth to handle it) is 
>> to let anything in that *might* be legit. I know that people with wrong DNS 
>> setup should not send out mail into the world like that, but I prefer this 
>> to just add to their spam score in spamassassin instead of blocking people 
>> who just don't know better. (They need educating, not blocking) and it IS 
>> hard to explain false positives to endusers... As I explained in a different 
>> post, my setup does not throw stuff away, but puts spam into a 'dubious 
>> looking' folder and users have to decide what to do with it - which is what 
>> they got for complaining about said false positives too often ;-)
>> Anyway, Is it possible to use SpamDyke for just that? a very conservative 
>> DNSBL like abuseat and nothing else??
>> Martin
>> Am 21.06.2010 um 17:01 schrieb Eric Shubert:
>>> I agree with Michael that spamdyke is great. Highly recommended.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to clarify the tcpserver -h option though. This option does do an 
>>> rDNS lookup which is duplicative with spamdyke, but I think it's best to do 
>>> both, as they're used for different purposes. Spamdyke uses rDNS for 
>>> blocking. Tcpserver's -h option simply sets the TCPREMOTEHOST variable, 
>>> which does no blocking of any kind, but does provide more complete logging 
>>> messages. The overhead of the duplicate rDNS lookup is negligible 
>>> (immeasurable I expect), since the lookup is cached. That's why I think 
>>> it's best to have both.
>>> 
>>> Sam C (spamdyke's author) discusses this (and other things) here:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00842.html
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> -Eric 'shubes'
>>> 
>>> Michael Colvin wrote:
>>>> Are you using SpamDyke?  If so, and you are checking for RDNS there, that
>>>> would seem duplicative to me.  I block any mail server that does not have
>>>> RDNS using SpamDyke.  Better to stop it there than waste time scanning it
>>>> with SpamAssassin...
>>>> Michael J. Colvin
>>>> NorCal Internet Services
>>>> www.norcalisp.com
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Martin Waschbuesch [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:57 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin
>>>>> 
>>>>> Found it myself:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run, I had forgotten to enable rDNS (default
>>>>> seems to be off), by changing the -H flag to -h.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Martin
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 20.06.2010 um 10:48 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is something weird I noticed in my logs: every email I receive
>>>>> gets marked as RDNS_NONE by spamassassin. This was not the case with my
>>>>> previous setup. lookup and reverse lookup work, so I am at a loss as to
>>>>> why this is? Perhaps some perl module I have not installed, etc?
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> world, and all there ever will be to know and understand."
>>>>>> Albert Einstein
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