At this point I'm leaning toward leaving Untangle just in charge of my
corporate network (Exchange Server spam and content management) while I
put Spamdyke in charge of the qmailtoaster servers that house mail for
my clients.

I have had very good results for the Untangle Anti-spam (spam counts
went from the thousands per day for just a handful of aacounts to near
zero), but the more research I've done today, coupled with what I've
seen here, I'm thinking that it won't be a good match with QMT.

If any one has more to add (for or against), I'm all ears.

Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:49 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?

If you choose to use Untangle, that's what I would recommend.
Great minds think alike. :)

--
-Eric 'shubes'

Amit Dalia wrote:
> I'm using Untangle in my network but I prefer not to use Anti-Spam 
> feature of the same. Instead I use SPAMDYKE on my QMT server.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Amit
> 
> At Monday, 02-08-2010 on 4:15 Patrick Ring wrote:
> 
>     I have often felt Untangle needed a bit more cpu than most
appliances
>     should, but I've been pleased with it on my office-only network
which is
>     why I asked what some here may think.
> 
>     I guess this confirms my feelings that Untangle is best suited for
a
>     small-med business firewall and content control appliance than
just a
>     dedicated SPAM/virus filter.
> 
>     As for Spamdyke, I figured it would be best suited to function
directly
>     on the permimeter of the mail network (because of what it does).
Would
>     you suggest putting Spamdyke on a dedicated box that relays mail
in, or
>     just run it on my QMT boxes directly?
> 
>     I'm not familiar with IPCop at all. I'll have to look at what it
does.
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Patrick M. Ring
>     P. Ring Technologies
>     Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>     985-868-4200
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
>     Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:47 PM
>     To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>     Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?
> 
>     Patrick Ring wrote:
>      > I'm needing to tighten my gateways . In particular against
SPAM.
>      >
>      > I know there has been a lot of talk here about the Spamdyke
>     software,
>      > but I'm also looking at the virus protection side too (even
though
>      > Clam is in QMT).
>      >
>      > Since I successfully run Untangle infront of my M$ Exchange
boxes, I
>      > was considering it for QMT.
>      > Does anyone here have experience with QMT behind an Untangle
server?
>      > Is there anything I should be aware of?
>      >
>      > Thank you,
>      > Patrick M. Ring
>      > P. Ring Technologies
>      > Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>      > 985-868-4200
>      >
> 
>     I took a look at untangle a year or two ago. It's flashy and has a
slick
>     interface, which unfortunately causes it to require more hardware
to run
>     on than is generally needed for a router. I also don't think that
>     anti-spam software in general is suited to a router
host/appliance. I
>     prefer running IPCop in front of QMT, which I do regularly.
> 
>     I expect that spamdyke with QMT (and spamassassin) will catch
every bit
>     as much and probably more spam than untangle or even postini
would.
> 
>     If you want to beef up virus detection, I would suggest augmenting
or
>     replacing clamav with a commercial AV offering such as ESET or
>     Kaspersky. I believe that ESET can be easily integrated with QMT
during
>     the delivery phase. I'm not sure about Kaspersky or others.
> 
>     You should realize that spamdyke is only effective when it's "on
the
>     edge", communicating directly with the sending server. Putting a
device
>     which handles the smtp session from the sender in front of
spamdyke will
>     defeat most of spamdyke's effectiveness.
> 
>     HTH.
> 
>     --
>     -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> 
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