If the problem is arising during the TLS negotiation, then there will never be an SMTP session started and therefore there will never be an attempt to even submit a password.

I do not think that a TLS negotiation problem will show up in any mail-related log file. I've yet to find it in any log file.

-Andy





On 4/22/2020 5:17 PM, David Bray wrote:
no - but vchkpw, also spamdyke does

so this is blocking people that are providing bad passwords etc ...
but agree, still trying to work out who is doing something other than this

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 11:15, Remo Mattei <r...@mattei.org <mailto:r...@mattei.org>> wrote:

    qmail does not log to maillog.
    Remo

    Inviato da iPad

    Il giorno 22 apr 2020, alle ore 5:36 PM, David Bray
    <da...@brayworth.com.au <mailto:da...@brayworth.com.au>> ha scritto:

    
    I agree, have them in place already, they are winners

      * I actually disagree slightly, if I'm not mistaken - it would
        be better to have those two entries combined, wouldn't
        fail2ban parse the maillog twice in his example ?

    I use:
    failregex = vchkpw-smtps?: vpopmail user not found .*:<HOST>
                vchkpw-smtps?: password fail ([^)]*) [^@]*@[^:]*:<HOST>
                spamdyke.*?: DENIED_RDNS_RESOLVE .*origin_ip: <HOST>
    origin_rdns:.*$

    But - I'm not getting log entries for these guys, maillog is all
    silent I watch /var/log/qmail/smtps/current float up and down, CPU
    goes up and down, but /var/log/maillog is all silent

    David Bray
    0418 745334
    2 ∞ & <


    On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 00:06, Jaime Lerner
    <jaimeler...@geekgoddess.com <mailto:jaimeler...@geekgoddess.com>>
    wrote:

        David,____

        __ __

        You might try the suggestions here:
        https://www.taverner-rich.com/mitigating-brute-force-attacks/____

        __ __

        I put them in place on my server and it definitely helped.____

        __ __

        Jaime____

        __ __

        *From: *Eric Broch <ebr...@whitehorsetc.com
        <mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>>
        *Reply-To: *<qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
        <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>>
        *Date: *Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 9:40 AM
        *To: *<qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
        <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>>
        *Subject: *Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTPS Port - Who is Failing ?____

        __ __

        Hi David,____

        I think you're on to something with fail2ban (keying off
        maillog). I was monitoring my smtps port (watching the
        certificate and encryption scroll by) using /usr/bin/recordio
        and /var/log/maillog and found that the bad guys are trying to
        login. Here are some failures from maillog:____

        vchkpw-smtps: vpopmail user not found
        testforu...@whitehorsetc.com:92.118.38.83
        <mailto:testforu...@whitehorsetc.com:92.118.38.83>____

        vchkpw-smtps: password fail (pass: 'somepassword')
        someu...@whitehorsetc.com:185.50.149.2
        <mailto:someu...@whitehorsetc.com:185.50.149.2>____

        Maybe a fail2ban rule?!____

        Eric____

        __ __

        On 4/18/2020 4:12 AM, David Bray wrote:____

            Hi thanks - yes can block that IP____

            But it’s not just one, and the solution is not fine enough____

            I want more of a fail2ban rule, bad use bad pass 3 strikes
            your out____

            __ __

            I need to know they are mucking round.____

            __ __

            I tried sending myself through the port with a bad
            password- sure it blocks it, but there is no log of the
            event - it looks like a legit, connection from Ann IP____

            __ __

            On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 7:30 pm, Chris <boh...@gmail.com
            <mailto:boh...@gmail.com>> wrote:____

                Here's a great article with instructions on how to
                implement an IP blacklist in iptables. Unless you've
                got a user in Panama, it looks like you's want to
                block 141.98.80.30 ____


                
https://linux-audit.com/blocking-ip-addresses-in-linux-with-iptables/____

                __ __

                On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 5:49 PM David Bray
                <da...@brayworth.com.au
                <mailto:da...@brayworth.com.au>> wrote:____

                    sure - thanks for replying, this comes in waves
                    taking the server to it's maximum at times ____

                    __ __

                    as far as I can see this only logs are this:____

                    __ __

                    ==> /var/log/qmail/smtps/current <==
                    2020-04-18 05:04:48.450871500 tcpserver: status: 6/60
                    2020-04-18 05:04:48.480785500 tcpserver: pid 13339
                    from 141.98.80.30
                    2020-04-18 05:04:48.480787500 tcpserver: ok 13339
                    dev.brayworth.com:172.105.181.18:465
                    :141.98.80.30::25638
                    2020-04-18 05:04:52.797644500 tcpserver: status: 7/60
                    2020-04-18 05:04:52.830767500 tcpserver: pid 13340
                    from 141.98.80.30
                    2020-04-18 05:04:52.830768500 tcpserver: ok 13340
                    dev.brayworth.com:172.105.181.18:465
                    :141.98.80.30::14862
                    2020-04-18 05:04:57.248902500 tcpserver: status: 8/60
                    2020-04-18 05:04:57.304003500 tcpserver: pid 13342
                    from 141.98.80.30
                    2020-04-18 05:04:57.304006500 tcpserver: ok 13342
                    dev.brayworth.com:172.105.181.18:465
                    :141.98.80.30::9646
                    2020-04-18 05:05:01.854790500 tcpserver: status: 9/60
                    2020-04-18 05:05:01.902265500 tcpserver: pid 13345
                    from 141.98.80.30
                    2020-04-18 05:05:01.902266500 tcpserver: ok 13345
                    dev.brayworth.com:172.105.181.18:465
                    :141.98.80.30::54058
                    2020-04-18 05:05:09.729711500 tcpserver: end 13338
                    status 256
                    2020-04-18 05:05:09.729713500 tcpserver: status: 8/60
                    2020-04-18 05:06:05.965715500 tcpserver: end 13342
                    status 256
                    2020-04-18 05:06:05.965716500 tcpserver: status: 7/60
                    2020-04-18 05:06:06.141272500 tcpserver: end 13340
                    status 256
                    2020-04-18 05:06:06.141273500 tcpserver: status:
                    6/60____


                    ____

                    David Bray____

                    0418 745334
                    2 ∞ & <____

                    __ __

                    __ __

                    On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 15:41, Eric Broch
                    <ebr...@whitehorsetc.com
                    <mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:____

                        Can you send the log of one of the "bad"
                        connections?____

                        On 4/17/2020 10:59 PM, David Bray wrote:____

                            I can see I'm getting hammered on my smtps
                            port ____

                            __ __

                            How can I mitigate this?____

                            __ __

                            I can see the IP's in
                            /var/log/qmail/smtps/current____

                            __ __

                            *but where do I actually see that the smtp
                            auth actually fails ?*____

                            __ __

                            or do I need to increase the logging
                            somewhere ?____

                            __ __

                            if I tail -f /var/log/dovecot.log____

                            __ __

                            I can see the imap and pop failures____

                            __ __

                            thanks in advance____


                            ____

                            David Bray____

                            0418 745334
                            2 ∞ & <____

            -- ____

            # David____


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