Perhaps, as long as nothing related to the kernel or basic OS changed.
And the updating would need to be tested. It would be bad if the server
instance wouldn't boot. Then you'd be dead in the water. I'd feel a
little more confident using an OS/distribution supported by the cloud
provider. We use AWS, GCP and Azure.
Jeff
On 12/11/2020 10:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:
From what the Rocky Linux developers say, that distro should be out by
CentOS 8 end-of-life, 12/31/2021. It should be elementary to change
repos, right?
On 12/11/2020 8:10 AM, Jeff Koch wrote:
We have a similar situation with AWS. Jeff
On 12/11/2020 9:45 AM, Gary Bowling wrote:
One issue I have is that my toaster is hosted on a virtual machine
at Linode. Others may use virtual solutions as well.
These services offer virtual machines of several popular flavors,
but you have to use whatever they offer. Linode offers servers in
Centos, Alpine, Arch, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, Slackware, Ubuntu, and
OpenSUSE. To use their service, you choose a platform/OS and specs.
It's built for you in their data center, then you log in and
configure/install what you want.
So for Linode there is no Rocky-linux or FreeBSD. Not to say that
Rocky won't be supported in the future. If it takes hold and many of
the CentOS customers move that direction, I'm sure it will.
It's just something to keep in mind and consider as this is moved
forward.
gary
On 12/11/2020 8:52 AM, Eric Broch wrote:
This looks like good news: https://github.com/rocky-linux
On another note: IBM bought/acquired
<https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-landmark-acquisition-red-hat-34-billion-defines-open-hybrid-cloud-future>
Red Hat.
On 12/10/2020 8:35 AM, Eric Broch wrote:
/Fellow QMT enthusiasts:
/
/I became concerned about the future of CentOS a week or so ago
///(not a premonition just my natural paranoia) /prior to their
announcement two days back and visited centos.org to relieve my
fears. I was confident at that point that having gotten QMT/CentOS
8 ready I was good to go for ~10 years. My confidence MAY have
been hasty. I'm still not sure what drawbacks 'stream' is going to
bring, if any, and like Angus am apprehensive. It's supposed to be
an intermediate environment between Fedora and RHEL. In my
opinion, to release CentOS 8 and then move it from downstream to
upstream after people have already migrated is short-sighted at
the very least, and its name Community Enterprise OS (8) is now a
misnomer. Living in somewhat of a cocoon, I was completely unaware
that RH "joined" CentOS. I've heard some say that we've been
freeloading off CentOS for years and now it's time to pay up.
Never mind that a free kernel is used and we actually test the
software and report bugs. That said, I have REALLY enjoyed using
CentOS since the beginning.
/
/That said, having a look at the old spec files from *-toaster
designation days when we built the QMT for specific platforms,
Fedora, was among them along with Suse, Mandrake, so, at the
beginning QMT was used in a non-Enterprise environment. Anyway...
/
/Personally, I'm interested in both Debian and FreeBSD and would
like to go back halfway to multi-platform builds while keeping the
current QMT/CentOS 8 offering. This would mitigate the problems,
if there are any, we are seeing now (hopefully). I guess it just
depends on when (or if) the mega-corps buy up all of the Linux
distributions and hang us all out to dry. Given the Felliniesque
nature of the world today nothing would surprise me anymore.
/
/One advantage of having a ports like mail server is the ability,
if one is inclined to dig a little beyond binary installs, to make
changes on the fly without having to wait for packages from the repo./
/I've tried to install FreeBSD, although somewhat half-heartedly,
on Proxmox serveral times with no success. If anyone has any hints
I'm all ears...just my 2 cents./
/So, if anyone is working on installing QMT on another platform
please keep us apprised of your successes. If you feel like
writing it up, I'll post it to the web site.
/
/I'll be looking into converting to *.deb packages (like rpm's,
binary ease of install) in some way (I tried using alien...on the
website) which can be used on Ubuntu and Debian Linux. Back to
work for me...
/
/Eric B.
/
On 12/9/2020 7:31 PM, Tony White wrote:
Hi all,
Anyone interested in BSD either Free or Open?
I am starting to work on building a FreeBSD version
of this for myself. Would like to know if anyone
else is interested.
best wishes
Tony White
On 10/12/20 6:49 am, Unai Rodriguez wrote:
Debian!
-- unai
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Boheme wrote:
I’ve been meaning to learn to compile all the source for Ubuntu
for a
while. This may be the kick in the pants I needed.
-Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000
On 10/12/2020, at 12:50 AM, Angus McIntyre <[email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of
qmailtoaster given the new plans for CentOS?
(See https://centos.org/distro-faq/ for more details)
I'd never actually heard of CentOS Stream before today, but
having just painfully built a working toaster on top of CentOS
8, I'm a little apprehensive about the impact of the proposed
changes.
Comments?
Angus
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