Have to agree with this! Mine is on a Digital Ocean droplet. :) No problems whatsoever.
From: Gary Bowling <[email protected]> Organization: GBCO Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS? Yes, they give you an OS, with the amount of MEM/disk/processors/etc that you configure and purchase. Once you get that, you can log in with SSH and set up anything you like. There is also a console app from your account in case you have trouble getting in via SSH. It's really a nice service and I've been very happy with it. Since your machine sits on top of a big architecture you never have to worry about hardware failures, hardware upgrades, etc. You can add storage, RAM, processors, etc to an existing machine at any time. I was skeptical at first of running email on a virtual, but I've been using mine for about 3 years now and it's really been a good service. I would never go back to a real machine, all the hardware headaches are gone. gary On 12/11/2020 10:01 AM, Eric Broch wrote: Do they allow you to control the repos from which you update? If so there should not be problem if Rocky is done by then. On 12/11/2020 7:45 AM, Gary Bowling wrote: One issue I have is that my toaster is hosted on a virtual machine at Linode. Others may use virtual solutions as well. These services offer virtual machines of several popular flavors, but you have to use whatever they offer. Linode offers servers in Centos, Alpine, Arch, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, Slackware, Ubuntu, and OpenSUSE. To use their service, you choose a platform/OS and specs. It's built for you in their data center, then you log in and configure/install what you want. So for Linode there is no Rocky-linux or FreeBSD. Not to say that Rocky won't be supported in the future. If it takes hold and many of the CentOS customers move that direction, I'm sure it will. It's just something to keep in mind and consider as this is moved forward. gary On 12/11/2020 8:52 AM, Eric Broch wrote: This looks like good news: https://github.com/rocky-linux On another note: IBM bought/acquired Red Hat. On 12/10/2020 8:35 AM, Eric Broch wrote: Fellow QMT enthusiasts: I became concerned about the future of CentOS a week or so ago (not a premonition just my natural paranoia) prior to their announcement two days back and visited centos.org to relieve my fears. I was confident at that point that having gotten QMT/CentOS 8 ready I was good to go for ~10 years. My confidence MAY have been hasty. I'm still not sure what drawbacks 'stream' is going to bring, if any, and like Angus am apprehensive. It's supposed to be an intermediate environment between Fedora and RHEL. In my opinion, to release CentOS 8 and then move it from downstream to upstream after people have already migrated is short-sighted at the very least, and its name Community Enterprise OS (8) is now a misnomer. Living in somewhat of a cocoon, I was completely unaware that RH "joined" CentOS. I've heard some say that we've been freeloading off CentOS for years and now it's time to pay up. Never mind that a free kernel is used and we actually test the software and report bugs. That said, I have REALLY enjoyed using CentOS since the beginning. That said, having a look at the old spec files from *-toaster designation days when we built the QMT for specific platforms, Fedora, was among them along with Suse, Mandrake, so, at the beginning QMT was used in a non-Enterprise environment. Anyway... Personally, I'm interested in both Debian and FreeBSD and would like to go back halfway to multi-platform builds while keeping the current QMT/CentOS 8 offering. This would mitigate the problems, if there are any, we are seeing now (hopefully). I guess it just depends on when (or if) the mega-corps buy up all of the Linux distributions and hang us all out to dry. Given the Felliniesque nature of the world today nothing would surprise me anymore. One advantage of having a ports like mail server is the ability, if one is inclined to dig a little beyond binary installs, to make changes on the fly without having to wait for packages from the repo. I've tried to install FreeBSD, although somewhat half-heartedly, on Proxmox serveral times with no success. If anyone has any hints I'm all ears...just my 2 cents. So, if anyone is working on installing QMT on another platform please keep us apprised of your successes. If you feel like writing it up, I'll post it to the web site. I'll be looking into converting to *.deb packages (like rpm's, binary ease of install) in some way (I tried using alien...on the website) which can be used on Ubuntu and Debian Linux. Back to work for me... Eric B. On 12/9/2020 7:31 PM, Tony White wrote: Hi all, Anyone interested in BSD either Free or Open? I am starting to work on building a FreeBSD version of this for myself. Would like to know if anyone else is interested. best wishes Tony White On 10/12/20 6:49 am, Unai Rodriguez wrote: Debian! -- unai On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Boheme wrote: I’ve been meaning to learn to compile all the source for Ubuntu for a while. This may be the kick in the pants I needed. -Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000 On 10/12/2020, at 12:50 AM, Angus McIntyre <[email protected]> wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of qmailtoaster given the new plans for CentOS? (See https://centos.org/distro-faq/ for more details) I'd never actually heard of CentOS Stream before today, but having just painfully built a working toaster on top of CentOS 8, I'm a little apprehensive about the impact of the proposed changes. Comments? 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