Hi Burak!

>>     i tried qxtransformer some time ago. it's quite buggy, it did not
>> look
>>     like a finished product. it's implemented using xsl/xslt, so its
>> "code"
>>     looks horrendous. it'd be fine if it just worked but as it is now i
>>     wouldn't get near it.
>>
>>
>> That seems a bit unfair.  Having tried something "some time ago" and
>> found it buggy is not necessarily indicative of current state.
>> Christian and his gang have been very actively working  on
>> qxtransformer, as is seen from the frequent commits.  I don't use it,
>> but I highly suspect that it's currently in much better condition then
>> this message would indicate.  And if not, I'm quite sure that Christian
>> would appreciate any bugs you do find being reported to him.
>>
>
> I looked at my notes, and it turns out that "some time ago", it was
> August 3rd. svn log shows the revision at that time was 130, committed
> months before. Looking at the state of the project, I thought it was
> abandoned and never looked at it again. it's quite unlucky because
> commit 131 was the next day :-( I'm sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings.

I also think it's more than fair to apologize for your original
statements, as they simply are not appropriate. In fact Siarhei and
Christian are long-time contributors to qooxdoo, and qxtransformer is a
fine addition to the qooxdoo ecosystem. AFAIK they keep developing most of
qxtransformer in their spare time, so not everything may be polished, but
they have already been using it for various real-life applications. So at
least for them it's ready for production use, and it's great they keep
sharing and refining  their code and vision with the community.

> But i still think that:
> 1. defining a new set of xml tags is too much work.
> 2. xsl/xslt is a maintenance nightmare.

The technical arguments here are rather vague, I think the whole subject
is rather a matter of taste. It keeps being a recurring discussion,
whether a programmatic or a declarative way of setting up the UI is
favorable. IMHO there just isn't much point in this kind of general
discussion. Both ways have their advantages and disadvantages. It's not
about "one way or the other", it's about "both". And that's exactly what
is offered here - as open source, ready for collaboration.

Great to be able to choose from such alternatives, picking the one that
best fits your needs and thinking. Some prefer Java, fine, just use QWT or
RAP. Others Delphi, no problem, use Delphi4PHP. And so on.

At the end, it's more or less a qooxdoo application. Well, this one really
matters.  ;-)

Bye,

Andreas



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