Hello,

My shiney new qooxdoo app has grown up to 2,000 lines in the last several
weeks,  this framework is super!  (Just "diving in" seems to have been the
way to go for me....)

I could never get my back-end, even when reduced to not much more than a
"Hello World",  response back into Qooxdoo.  Yes, I changed various fields
in the config  and other files, in short, everything I could think of at
least 10 times.

THEN I tried WebSockets -  and I was off to the races.  Not much code.  It
"just works" and seems fast and powerful,  BUT I'm no expert and I'm rather
over my head with the security issues and such - I'd like to put off these
types of things until after I have established a basic working "circuit".  

Now I'm looking around and finding that there are some very interesting, and
economical, solutions that use WebSockets (starting to pop up, it would
seem).   I'm not sure how to weigh the advantages of Websockets over HTTP
but I thought I'd give this a good go before returning to knocking my bloody
head against the wall trying to  using HTTP again.  (Even a minimalist HTTP
WebFramework like Sinatra seems to me to be about 80% "bloat"  that I don't
need.)

Any comments on WebSockets being the future, a canard or whatever fully
appreciated...   *but here's the situation:*   The company I am the most
impressed with (Pusher) has various Serverside tools and I think I'm home
free as these folks are also heavy into Ruby.   ON THE CLIENTSIDE however
they are documenting that I "should" put  *this into my HTML:*

  

to have the benefit of their JavaScript support.   I've really searched the
Qooxdoo manuals and this forum (there's a good 2009 thread considering what
could be done) but I'm not sure how things have landed,  or what it is  I'm
dealing with.   The pusher library seems small enough, and I'm desperate
enough to consider bringing it into Qooxdoo one method at a time,
particularly if this would be a decent way to do things, but I fear things
are changing rapidly and this would get me into stuff I don't want to be
overly involved with unless I must...  

BTW, what I find particularly intriguing about the WebSocket approach is
that the Server can trigger events and "push" to the Client side.  In our
particular usage niche this seems to have a lot of "power" although I don't
have any immediate need for it.  Otherwise, it seems faster and more
efficient, and there is expert talk of a huge percent savings in overall
traffic vs polling.  

The pusher site is here: http://pusher.com/docs/javascript_quick_start    if
anybody is interested. 


Thanks in advance for any comments,

Sincerely,

GKoller

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