All, I can see the value in a user list now for the noise advoidance value.
I routinely have more than 50 new messages on the dev list when I login to my email, and even using googlemail with threading (which not all our users will be using) it's quite hard to see the wood for the trees :-) Marnie On 11/23/06, Rajith Attapattu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If we have a substantial user base already then I think there is value in going for a user list. I agree and understand the point made by Cliff and Paul about the community being fragmented. But I also see agree with roberts comments. I think unlike other incubator projects we do have some users already. The user may find it a bit intimidating/confusing when they subscribe to the dev list. If users are already using Qpid in production then they may have significant amount of questions. I as a dev and the majority of user swould like to see those questions on a seperate list so that we don't create too much distraction for either party. Regards, Rajith On 11/22/06, Robert Greig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 22/11/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For this reason, incubating projects these days are generally > > encouraged to keep both user and devs together on one list until the > > user-oriented traffic grows to a point that it becomes too noisy and > > not useful for all developers to be hearing. > > I'd turn that round slightly and ask if it's reasonable to make our > users wade through all sorts of (to them) noise on the dev list? > > I certainly think all developers should subscribe to the user list, > and interact with the users. > > I know from helping our internal users of Qpid that many users are > looking for help migrating from other products and are working to > deadlines. They want to be able to get help and advice quickly and I > think asking them to subscribe to a dev list would put them off. It > might also confuse them as we discuss features or concepts only > applicable to in-development versions as opposed to releases. > > RG >