Hi all, I also agree with having a seperate list for users. This is also based on my experience with other projects I have worked with. The dev and users lists were different and a seperate users list makes it clean from users point of view also.
And if there are only few users then also it makes sense to have a seperate list. If we have that now we can continue with that instead of creating a list later and asking all subscribed users to subscribe to a different list later. And aren't we expecting no of users to grow? we are. Thanks Bhupendra On 11/23/06, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All, I can see the value in a user list now for the noise advoidance value. I routinely have more than 50 new messages on the dev list when I login to my email, and even using googlemail with threading (which not all our users will be using) it's quite hard to see the wood for the trees :-) Marnie On 11/23/06, Rajith Attapattu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If we have a substantial user base already then I think there is value in > going for a user list. > I agree and understand the point made by Cliff and Paul about the > community > being fragmented. > > But I also see agree with roberts comments. I think unlike other incubator > projects we do have some users already. > The user may find it a bit intimidating/confusing when they subscribe to > the > dev list. > > If users are already using Qpid in production then they may have > significant > amount of questions. > I as a dev and the majority of user swould like to see those questions on > a > seperate list so that we don't create too much distraction for either > party. > > Regards, > > Rajith > > On 11/22/06, Robert Greig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 22/11/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > For this reason, incubating projects these days are generally > > > encouraged to keep both user and devs together on one list until the > > > user-oriented traffic grows to a point that it becomes too noisy and > > > not useful for all developers to be hearing. > > > > I'd turn that round slightly and ask if it's reasonable to make our > > users wade through all sorts of (to them) noise on the dev list? > > > > I certainly think all developers should subscribe to the user list, > > and interact with the users. > > > > I know from helping our internal users of Qpid that many users are > > looking for help migrating from other products and are working to > > deadlines. They want to be able to get help and advice quickly and I > > think asking them to subscribe to a dev list would put them off. It > > might also confuse them as we discuss features or concepts only > > applicable to in-development versions as opposed to releases. > > > > RG > > > >