Ultimately, any command messages which get processed in the server; whether
binary marshalled, textual, xml'like, JMX, SNMP, whatever - that needs to be
implementable in any technology.

SqlPlus I'd imagine is like isql.
The client just blasts text to the server and interprets/displays the
results coming back.
John

On 25/01/07, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I guess if we need to be supporting Erlang we should get the AMQP WG to
involve the RabbitMQ team in the discussion ? They'd be best placed to
discuss how it could be done from their perspective.

Marnie


On 1/25/07, Rafael Schloming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hadn't pictured using python as a server embedded language, just as a
> good way to write really low maintenance command line utilities
> (including a sqlplus like one) that can easily talk to many different
> broker implementations.
>
> Of course now that you mention it python is probably one of the easiest
> languages to embed in both Java and C++ (don't know about Erlang), and
> it is a much more full featured language than many other candidates
> (e.g. javascript, groovy, etc, have some frustrating limitations when
> writing larger pieces of code).
>
> --Rafael
>
> John O'Hara wrote:
> > Over at AMQP WG we want to standardise basic management to make it
> portable
> > -- think DDL / DML.
> >
> > So the server implementation of the commands needs to be able to
process
> > some command language **within** the server.
> > The command processor will need to be emeddable into both Java and
C/C++
> > (and Erlang - see RabbitMQ).
> > This likely means some custom scheme (think DDL / DML).
> >
> > Given this objective, which is important to end users, embedding
Python
> > into
> > the brokers may not be the most sensible option (it may be a sensible
> thing
> > for the command line client, but the command processor in the server
> needs
> > to be more agnostic).
> >
> > This is somewhere that designing it first will pay off before running
to
> > the
> > ID(L)E :-)
> >
> > Cheers
> > John
> >
> > On 24/01/07, Jesus M. Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 for python
> >>
> >> On 1/24/07, Rafael Schloming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > +1
> >> >
> >> > I'm probably biased, but IMHO python would be an ideal choice for
> this.
> >> >
> >> > John O'Hara wrote:
> >> > > We also need to do a command line client for AMQP.
> >> > > Its very necessary....
> >> > >
> >> > > John
> >> > >
> >> > > On 12/01/07, Bhupendra Bhardwaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi Nuno,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> patch applied.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regards,
> >> > >> Bhupendra
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 1/12/07, Nuno Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Bhupendra Bhardwaj wrote:
> >> > >> > > So I have applied the other part of the patch and created
> >> different
> >> > >> > scripts
> >> > >> > > for gtk and motif. We can similarly create scripts for other
> >> > >> windowing
> >> > >> > > system too without changing the config.ini.
> >> > >> > > I think it is better from a user point of view to have
> different
> >> > >> script
> >> > >> > for
> >> > >> > > different windowing system instead of changing the config.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Bhupendra,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > thanks for applying the patch... and I agree with you
regarding
> >> having
> >> > >> > the additional scripts vs. having to tweak a config file.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Btw, I uploaded a 2nd patch to include your new scripts in the
> >> tar/zip
> >> > >> > files:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >>
>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12348845/management-eclipse-plugin-unix.xml-20070112.patch
> >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Nuno
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>


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