Also, I did email Sun and the JSR28 spec member who has the Jar on his personal website. No replies yet.
On 2/8/07, Rupert Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, reading the licence I wasn't at all sure if it met the OSD or not. It seems to for 'Research' purposes (but wheres the source?), and the 'Commercial' purposes section possibly extends that, without adding too many more restrictions. Its a slightly perplexing licence though. It seems that its purpose is for reference implementations, so that 'researchers' producing implementations can freely use the RI as a guide but the RI is not really intended for other uses, but don't take my interpretation too seriously; it looks fairly ambigously worded to me! The other thing about this JSR28 jar is that on the site where I downloaded it, it claims it is a reference implementation. In fact, the jar just contains the API. So what to do? Shall I just write a copy of the API from scratch and put it under javax.security.sasl in much the same way that geronimo have with the JMS API? Or, do I need to write some sort of wrapper API and factory to choose between Sun SASL on 1.5 and homebrew SASL on 1.4? On 2/8/07, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/7/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 10:26, Rupert Smith wrote: > > > I've noticed that recently a lot of Sun API jars have become > available on > > > the Maven repository (Look under > http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/javax/). > > > This includes the JMS 1.1 API, for which we are currently using the > one > > > found under org.apache.geronimo.specs. > > > > Actually, the jar isn't there. Just a pom that if you use it, it > says > > download it from..... > > > > > Sun jars under maven have always > > > been a bit of a problem because for licencing reasons they couldn't > be > > > included in the repository. Now it seems that many of them are, > presumably > > > because of Java itself becoming open sourced? > > > > I'd like to clear this up a bit.... > > > > Many of the older Sun jars are appearing in the maven repository > because Sun > > itself is having them put there. (Actually, they've setup their own > maven > > repository as well:https://maven-repository.dev.java.net/repository/ > ) The > > license on them still doesn't change. The license would prevent > anyone > > other than Sun from putting them there, but since Sun put it there, > that's > > OK. > > > > For the newer CDDL based code, those can be submitted by anyone so > those are > > appearing as well. > > > > The issue is the older non-cddl based jars (most are BCL) (JMS jar > falls into > > this category). Those need to be submitted by Sun. However, BCL > code > > cannot be shipped with an Apache project anyway. Thus, if they're > uploaded > > to maven or not doesn't change the fact that qpid cannot ship it. > > > > > If it is acceptable, I'd like to submit a request to get this JSR28 > jar > > > added to the maven repository too, and to use it. > > > > IANAL, but getting it submitted to the maven repository should be fine > (I > > think). You would still need legal/Cliff to make sure it's ok to > ship with > > the distributions. It's not on the list of accepted licenses: > > > > http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#criteriaandcategories<http://people.apache.org/%7Ecliffs/3party.html#criteriaandcategories> > > One of the criteria to allow incorporating a third-party component > into an ASF distribution is that the license meet the Open Source > Definition. The SCSL does not meet the OSD. You might want to check > with Sun and make sure they aren't planning on relicensing it under > the CDDL. > > Cliff >
