Hello Marnie, As I cannot update the wiki yet, I have opened a JIRA (QPID-503) that contains some design info.
Regards Arnaud On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 21:08 +0100, Marnie McCormack wrote: > On the subjedct of dtx, I think it'd be useful if the design info was > attached to the relvant JIRAs on the Qpid wiki too - apologies if it has > been added since I last looked ? > > Regards, > Marnie > > > On 5/24/07, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Few comments, > > > > the only reason is on a Red Hat site is that Red Hat has volunteered the > > resources for > > the protocol for the group to work on. On the issue with the docs, most > > of the work has > > moved to using plain wiki and not working in docs, so if you look at the > > transport pages > > that is in wiki and list form. > > > > The lock icon issue is just that it is hosted from SSL, I will file an > > issue on that and get it fixed, > > however I like the idea of creating a page on the qpid site for each > > feature that we Qpid > > implement and place all the relevant specification material on it to > > make it easy for the > > Qpid community. > > > > Carl. > > > > > > > > > > Cliff Schmidt wrote: > > > One more thought: > > > > > > The ideal thing is obviously to have all docs necessary to get > > > involved with Qpid actually on the Qpid site. It's also a little > > > strange to need to go to a redhat.com URL to get docs related to an > > > Apache project's implementation. So for those reasons I would suggest > > > moving the docs to the Qpid wiki (which is actually what Rajith > > > suggested a month ago -- it just didn't appear it was ever done). > > > > > > Cliff > > > > > > On 5/24/07, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I figured this was probably a mistake, but it's definitely important > > >> to make sure that no other specs have this problem if you're going to > > >> keep them on the AMQP site. I'm just concerned that someone new to > > >> Apache will try getting involved with Qpid and think that this is how > > >> things are intended to be and not even speak up about the problem. > > >> > > >> I only tried about half the links on the page (particularly the ones > > >> with lock icons next to them), but the ones that definitely would not > > >> give me access without logging in were the last three links on the > > >> page -- the three dtx pdf files. > > >> > > >> Cliff > > >> > > >> On 5/24/07, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Cliff > > >> > > > >> > That is a posting error, sometimes if someone posts a document when > > >> > logged in it requires you to be logged in to view them. This is > > >> just an > > >> > issues with how they where posted, not about intent for them to be > > >> open. > > >> > I can post copies to the list if desired. BTW, which docs do you have > > >> > the issue with as I seem to be able to open them all. > > >> > > > >> > Carl. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Cliff Schmidt wrote: > > >> > > On 5/24/07, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > >> Cliff, Paul, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> yes, all the dev lists and wiki are public > > >> > >> > > >> > >> amqp.108.redhat.com has links to them. You can also get to them > > >> form the > > >> > >> www.amqp.org. All the JIRA > > >> > >> text is also being posted to the dev list so all development > > >> activity > > >> > >> can be read by anyone. The > > >> > >> pages on the dtx stuff are here: > > >> > >> https://wiki.108.redhat.com/wiki/index.php/AMQP:Transaction_SIG > > >> > > > > >> > > Carl, > > >> > > > > >> > > This is exactly the page where I noticed that the three dtx pdf > > >> files > > >> > > all require a username and password. Maybe you don't get this > > >> prompt > > >> > > due to a cached credentials; but that's what I get. > > >> > > > > >> > > This is why I ask the question. Are there other specifications > > >> being > > >> > > used that are password-controlled? Was this unintentional? If so, > > >> > > when can this get fixed (i.e. remove password control from all > > >> > > relevant docs on the AMQP site or simply copy all relevant docs > > >> to the > > >> > > Qpid wiki)? > > >> > > > > >> > > Cliff > > >> > > > > >> > >> Paul Fremantle wrote: > > >> > >> > Cliff > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Aha. Thanks for spotting this. I raised the same issue over on > > >> > >> > Tuscany-Dev a while back. > > >> > >> > I think the first thing we need to see is what NDAs or License > > >> > >> > agreements do you need to sign to join the AMQP working group. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Paul > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > PS I don't want to hear you have to sign an NDA to see the NDA > > >> :-) > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > On 5/24/07, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > >> >> On 4/30/07, Rajith Attapattu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > Aranud, > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > Non working group memeber are not allowed to access the > > >> AMQP wiki. > > >> > >> >> > So it's better to put the design in the Qpid wiki. > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> Did this ever get fixed? I don't see much on dtx on the Qpid > > >> wiki > > >> > >> and > > >> > >> >> several of the AMQP specification pages appear to be locked. > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> I haven't gotten this impression before, but now I have to > > >> ask -- has > > >> > >> >> there been Qpid implementation work going on that is based on > > >> > >> >> specifications that are not available to the public? > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> Cliff > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > Regards, > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > Rajith. > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > On 4/24/07, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >> > >> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > Hi Arnaud, > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > Sorry if I'm missing something - but it's the info on the > > >> > >> >> implementation > > >> > >> >> > > for > > >> > >> >> > > Qpid I'm looking for, as opposed to protocol definitions ? > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > Is that level of detail available for a Qpid JIRA or is > > >> that yet > > >> > >> >> to come ? > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > Bfn, > > >> > >> >> > > Marnie > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > On 4/24/07, Arnaud Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > Hi Marnie, > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > You'll find all the material on the AMPQ wiki: > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> https://wiki.108.redhat.com/wiki/index.php/AMQP:Transaction_SIG > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > Do no hesitate to email me if you have questions. > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > Regards > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > Arnaud > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 12:35 +0100, Marnie McCormack > > wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > > > Hi Arnaud, > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > What JIRA(s) are you working on ? I'd like to have a > > >> look > > >> > >> at the > > >> > >> >> > > > > plan/design for the dtx work on Qpid - is it doc'd > > >> somewhere > > >> > >> >> please ? > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >> > >> >> > > > > Marnie > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > On 4/23/07, Arnaud Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > > > Hi, > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > After having talked with Rob, we came to the > > >> > >> >> conclusion that I > > >> > >> >> > > > > can > > >> > >> >> > > > > integrate my dtx work with the current > > >> version of the > > >> > >> >> trunk. > > >> > >> >> > > > > This is what I am currently doing and I'll > > >> provide > > >> > >> >> patches > > >> > >> >> > > > > through a > > >> > >> >> > > > > regular committer. > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > Regards > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > Arnaud > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >
