You know Stunt the only thing that worries me about Nader is the terrorist situation we have but I'm not going to let these terrorist dictate who I personally think cares about all American citizens and not big business.

I'm not voting for Bush or Kerry because a vote for them is a wasted vote in my eyes, a vote for Nader is a vote for the truth and a vote for every American that has no say anymore in how our government is up for sale to the highest bidder.
 
I'm not voting for a bunch of freaking lies anymore it's like voting for David Blane, you know it's a trick but you're still impressed any ways.
 
Mark
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Stuntman
Date: Monday, August 09, 2004 15:25:10
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] For those paying attention
 

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>
>
> ....actually, i think Jesus was an independent, but running as a
Democrat with very liberal views!! He was definitely FOR social
programs that helped the poor, even healing the disABLED...if only
Kerry could do that!! I think under Jesus we would have health
coverage. I don't think Jesus cared about getting a tax cut because i
remember him asking someone 'who's face is on the coin?' , speaking of
the emperor, and then saying 'give it to him.' Besides, Jesus looked
a LOT like dudes i've seen at Grateful Dead concert or a Phish
show...how many Republicans do you find there???<<

You'd be surprised. Bet I've been to more Greatful Dead concerts than
you, but phish isn't my style ;^) While I enjoyed Garcia's Utopian
Vision in much of his music, it was an escape of the spirit that many
people enjoyed. But the next day reality sets in as one gets back into
the rat race.
I'll be voting republican again, and I've got long hair and a beard.
I'm an Independent but Nader doesn't interest me. While I trust his
honesty, I can't see him protecting us from the Terrorist threat. He is
a reasonable man, but they are not.


Christ wasn't a POLITICIAN.
His interest is Souls not votes.
I doubt if he'd be in favor of any abortion, let alone late term
abortion, so I guess he couldn't be a modern Democrat.
Pretty sure he'd have issues with the Republicans too...
So probably an Indepedent
As for the other Ideologies go, I won't cast the first stone.

Kerry is in a state of constant flux, changeing his stance on things,
flip flopping depending on his audience of the day. He wants to use his
military service as part of his campaign, but seems to think nobody has
a right to question just what really happened during it. Sorry, but you
can't have it both ways. He claimed he commited "all sorts of
autrocities" during his short 4 month tour in Vietnam & had the
audacity to compare it to the abusive behavior at Abu Ghraib and
suggesting the it was Bush's fault. So my personal opinion is that the
John Kerry running for President will do another flip flop if elected,
and the American public will never see his promises fulfilled.

Although I don't believe in all of Bush's policies, he has done what he
said he would. He faced a downsliding economy when entering office, and
9/11 had been in the planning for years by Al Queda. The UN had done
nothing to force Sadamned into compliance with the 1991 treaty, lining
their pockets with oil for food money. 9/11 changed things. We couldn't
afford to take any chances that the Enemy of my enemy might
become "their" friend. The UN was united when it passed article 1441,
it wasn't based upon just the US's intel that Iraq still possessed
WMD's. If Sadamned had dispossed of them in view of a UN inspection
team as set down in the 1991 treaty, he could have ended the sanctions
a long time ago. He was given a LAST chance. He flubbed it, although
when it came time to enforce the consequences for non-compliance,
France stabbed us in the back. (Of course none of those post
sanctions "Made in France" munitions and weapons had anything to do
with their skulldugery right?)

So while we have many problems and issues, unless we defeat terrorism
none of them will matter for very long.
Stuntman

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>
>
> ....actually, i think Jesus was an independent, but running as a
Democrat with very liberal views!! He was definitely FOR social
programs that helped the poor, even healing the disABLED...if only
Kerry could do that!! I think under Jesus we would have health
coverage. I don't think Jesus cared about getting a tax cut because i
remember him asking someone 'who's face is on the coin?' , speaking of
the emperor, and then saying 'give it to him.' Besides, Jesus looked
a LOT like dudes i've seen at Grateful Dead concert or a Phish
show...how many Republicans do you find there???
>
> politically challenged.....tony
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Hogan
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] For those paying attention
>
>
> Although I don't consider myself to be a Christian in the
traditional sense, I find it difficult to understand how a real
Christian could be a Republican.
>
> Keith
>
> River Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And the following :
>
> the Democrats are morphing into a secular, or nonbelieving party,
while
> the most fervent nonminority Christians are moving into the
Republican
> column.
>
> This is just plain stupid, as you can't quantify who is in what
party -
> I believe there are many atheist Republicans as there are many
CATHOLIC
> and Christian Democrats.
>
> This news is for those who AREN'T listening, if you were
listening you
> would be as pissed off about the misquotes, partisan media (on
BOTH
> sides of the aisle) and sensationalism as I am.
>
> If you want the FACTS, you must watch the candidates yourself. As
in
> what Bush said the other day about funding the military :
>
> Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They
never
> stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and
> neither do we."-Washingt! on, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Thanks to
Alicia
> Butler.)
>
> And that folks, is a direct quote from our esteemed president.
>
> Riv
>
>

--
It's not the fall that hurts.
>
> politically challenged.....tony
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Hogan
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] For those paying attention
>
>
> Although I don't consider myself to be a Christian in the
traditional sense, I find it difficult to understand how a real
Christian could be a Republican.
>
> Keith
>
> River Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And the following :
>
> the Democrats are morphing into a secular, or nonbelieving party,
while
> the most fervent nonminority Christians are moving into the
Republican
> column.
>
> This is just plain stupid, as you can't quantify who is in what
party -
> I believe there are many atheist Republicans as there are many
CATHOLIC
> and Christian Democrats.
>
> This news is for those who AREN'T listening, if you were
listening you
> would be as pissed off about the misquotes, partisan media (on
BOTH
> sides of the aisle) and sensationalism as I am.
>
> If you want the FACTS, you must watch the candidates yourself. As
in
> what Bush said the other day about funding the military :
>
> Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They
never
> stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and
> neither do we."-Washingt! on, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Thanks to
Alicia
> Butler.)
>
> And that folks, is a direct quote from our esteemed president.
>
> Riv
>
>

--
It's not the fall that hurts.

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