Actually, in a recent conversation I had with Megan at Helping Hands (the only organization in the United States that trains helper monkey's, at least that I know of) she mentioned that this incident in New York is a large misconception. The monkey was not a helper monkey, but rather just a pet, that the owner claimed was a helper monkey simply to get around the ban on having monkeys as pets. Besides that, it was not even the breed commonly used, but rather an "old world monkey" that had not been raised in a home environment.
Mark Felling -----Original Message----- From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:32 PM To: Dana Miller; quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] dog training I guess I have the animal in mind here. Like the monkey situation, in which the monkey was never intended to go out, his stupid owner took him out and the the "monkey" reputation gets scarred. I hate to see people take advantage of animals like that. I was at a concert once and there was a couple with a CC service dog and they treated him like he was a circus act. I wished I could have reported them. It was awful. You know that is very confusing to the dog and promotes misbehavior in the future. I think I need to give it up, as I'm simply an animal lover and not a SD user. River On Aug 27, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Dana Miller wrote: > You were wrong "and" right! A person with a disability as decribed by > the > ADA may train their own dog. BUT it must have a TRAINED task that > will help > with the persons' disability. > There are dogs that are trained for people with mental disabilities, > but > there is a fine line between what a "pet" can offer and what a trained > task > is. That is the big question. It has caused many an argument in the > service dog world. > A person who uses a SD "is" responsible for any destruction and "is" > liable > for everything the dog does, but the dog "should" be extremely well > trained, > have a stable temperament and should cause no attention towards itself. > The ADA does not require certification, but really frowns on fraud!! > And > people with SD's know a fraud when they see it. I personally like my > SD to > be 'dressed', as in a harness and do not pet cape. Others do not. > One thing is for certain--THERAPY DOGS ARE NOT SERVICE DOGS!! > I'm not yelling, I'm emphazising extremely well! > I am aquanted with Pets and People and feel they are an up and up > organization. There there are a few fraudulent organizations, one in > which > the vice-pres. diagnoses disabilities on line. It is more or less > based in > the Seattle area, but the veep travels all over supposedly helping > people > with SD 's in accessability issues. He flaunts a Ph.D he does not > have and > the state of Florida has forbidden him from using it. He doesn't--in > florida, but if he can get away with it elsewhere he will. > > Anyway, it was a good question to ask! Glad you did! take care, > Dana and ? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "River Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "quad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:00 AM > Subject: [QUAD-L] dog training > > >> I have a question for all of you who have service dogs. Recently I >> encountered a person on another list (freecycle a place where you >> give away and ask for unwanted items) who asked for a service dog >> vest, as she was training her own dog for service. >> >> I ignorantly replied that there were special requirements for dog to >> earn their vests and that she couldn't train her dog on her own, as >> she would be liable for any damages incurred by the dog etc... >> >> Now I know differently and was throughly chewed out by her. So I'm >> asking you all who may know much more about this than I do. How can >> this be? It appears that from this website: >> http://www.petsandpeople.org/resource.htm Than anyone who "trains" >> their dog as a ehlper can buy a tag, vest or whatever and then go out >> in public with that dog. I see that some states have certification >> guidelines, which I think is a GOOD thing. >> >> Am I out of line to be concerned that dogs may not be "trained" well >> and my misbehave in public and thus give "throughly trained" dogs a >> bad name? Or am I over-reacting here? >> >> This particular person has PTSD and agoraphobia, I assume she is >> using the dog to ease her inability to cope with public places etc... >> >> Thanks for the input. >> >> River >> >> > >
