I am referring to vans that already have the lift and kneeldown and are at the handicap dealer facility awaiting purchase. Additional modifications would be the hand controls etc. I will have to make another trip to the dealer but the sticker price on the window was roughly 35,000 and rebates would bring that price down to 27,000. My thought is first how do you negotiate that price? Voc will hopefully pay additional modification costs but it sounded as though we were stuck paying that sticker price with no room for negotiation. I now regret not studying the sticker price because it seems the costs for kneeldown and lift should also be paid by Vocational Rehab since those are modifications even though already provided during manufacture. Please guide me in this process. Thanks, Karen
-----Original Message----- From: Dana Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Vans- 1st Owner We have a place in town that sells some mini-vans with lifts/ramps already installed. Is that what you are talking about when the chassis has to be crash tested? They also do conversions of new vehicles, from lifts to manual controls or whatever you need. The mini vans are very expensive, $30,000 to $40,000 and thats just with lifts and probably baffles. Speaking of baffles--for those that have them, do you use them? One person I know said they were a pain, another said they don't use them. Will Voc Rehab pay for the entire vehicle or just the modifications part of the van? I know if you are getting driving modifications, you must buy the van, then VR will pay for the rest. take care, Dana and ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Vans- 1st Owner > According to NHTSA, you should only consider purchasing a competed van. It > has to meet a stricter crash test requirement. > Conversion companies like you to purchase the van first, and then send it to > them for conversion. This eliminates the Federal Crash Test Requirements as > you are 1st Owner. Companies like Braun, VMI and IMS who sell converted > chassises must meet the same Federal Crash Requirement that GM, Ford and Chrysler > must meet... and do so each production year. > The smaller conversion company can't do that so they require you to purchase > the raw vehicle and become the 1st owner. This makes them a vehicle modifier > and they don't have to actually crash test their vehicle with each production > year. They don't have to pay the expensive crash testing which cost almost > $250,000 per test, per vehicle year. The money you save... you lose in crash > testing protection. Now some conversion companies will tell you that their > design has been crash tested, but when you ask them to produce the results, they > can't, they won't or will say something to disinterest you in the subject > matter. > For those interesting in conversion vans crash testing, go to: > www.NHTSA.org > W > In a message dated 9/24/04 9:05:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I am curious. How can you negotiate the price of a van when > > modifications are being paid for by Vocational Rehab and they are > > bidding out the job? Today I visited a business that sells accessible > > vans. I got the impression you didn’t have the negotiation options > > that you have when buying a regular vehicle. They only talk of rebates > > off that sticker price. This is our first venture down this road and > > any advice is welcome. Thanks, Karen > > >> > > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.769 / Virus Database: 516 - Release Date: 9/24/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.769 / Virus Database: 516 - Release Date: 9/24/2004
