I don't know much about car dickering except to find out the cost to the dealer--which can be found somewhere--but with the rebates, thats $8,000 less, sounds pretty good to me! But then my vehicle is 23 years old, so what do I know! BG! I do agree that it seems to me VR should pay for "any" adaptation, but things and money are getting so sticky these days I guess it depends on the state and a very good VR case worker! Sorry can't help you anymore. take care,
Dana and ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Dana Miller'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 1:58 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Vans- 1st Owner > I am referring to vans that already have the lift and kneeldown and are > at the handicap dealer facility awaiting purchase. Additional > modifications would be the hand controls etc. I will have to make > another trip to the dealer but the sticker price on the window was > roughly 35,000 and rebates would bring that price down to 27,000. My > thought is first how do you negotiate that price? Voc will hopefully > pay additional modification costs but it sounded as though we were stuck > paying that sticker price with no room for negotiation. I now regret > not studying the sticker price because it seems the costs for kneeldown > and lift should also be paid by Vocational Rehab since those are > modifications even though already provided during manufacture. Please > guide me in this process. Thanks, Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 1:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Vans- 1st Owner > > We have a place in town that sells some mini-vans with lifts/ramps > already > installed. Is that what you are talking about when the chassis has to > be > crash tested? They also do conversions of new vehicles, from lifts to > manual controls or whatever you need. The mini vans are very expensive, > $30,000 to $40,000 and thats just with lifts and probably baffles. > Speaking > of baffles--for those that have them, do you use them? One person I > know > said they were a pain, another said they don't use them. > Will Voc Rehab pay for the entire vehicle or just the modifications part > of > the van? I know if you are getting driving modifications, you must buy > the > van, then VR will pay for the rest. > take care, > Dana and ? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 5:46 PM > Subject: [QUAD-L] Vans- 1st Owner > > > > According to NHTSA, you should only consider purchasing a competed > van. > It > > has to meet a stricter crash test requirement. > > Conversion companies like you to purchase the van first, and then send > it > to > > them for conversion. This eliminates the Federal Crash Test > Requirements > as > > you are 1st Owner. Companies like Braun, VMI and IMS who sell > converted > > chassises must meet the same Federal Crash Requirement that GM, Ford > and > Chrysler > > must meet... and do so each production year. > > The smaller conversion company can't do that so they require you to > purchase > > the raw vehicle and become the 1st owner. This makes them a vehicle > modifier > > and they don't have to actually crash test their vehicle with each > production > > year. They don't have to pay the expensive crash testing which cost > almost > > $250,000 per test, per vehicle year. The money you save... you lose > in > crash > > testing protection. Now some conversion companies will tell you that > their > > design has been crash tested, but when you ask them to produce the > results, they > > can't, they won't or will say something to disinterest you in the > subject > > matter. > > For those interesting in conversion vans crash testing, go to: > > www.NHTSA.org > > W > > In a message dated 9/24/04 9:05:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > << I am curious. How can you negotiate the price of a van when > > > > modifications are being paid for by Vocational Rehab and they are > > > > bidding out the job? Today I visited a business that sells > accessible > > > > vans. I got the impression you didn’t have the negotiation options > > > > that you have when buying a regular vehicle. They only talk of > rebates > > > > off that sticker price. This is our first venture down this road > and > > > > any advice is welcome. Thanks, Karen > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.769 / Virus Database: 516 - Release Date: 9/24/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.769 / Virus Database: 516 - Release Date: 9/24/2004 > > > >
